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Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:03 am
by Frost
A negligent discharge and aftermath.
Link.
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:43 am
by phddan
"Apparently, one of the passengers had taken the Kimber pistol from the range bag while sitting behind the victim. Outside the victim’s field of view, the passenger had inserted a loaded magazine, and cycled the action with his index finger resting on the trigger, discharging the weapon.
He was able to safely stop the vehicle, exit, and enter the passenger side with assistance, allowing his passenger to drive him to the hospital."
I was thinking more along the line of "He was able to safely stop the vehicle, exit, stomp the snot out of the moron who went digging through his possessions without his permission, leaving him on the side of the road, and enter the passenger side with assistance, allowing his other passenger to drive him to the hospital."
My first thought after reading the article.
Dan
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:48 am
by KD5NRH
And once again, with a .45ACP.
I'm tellin' ya, the guys getting shot with 9mms and .40S&Ws are just putting on a bandaid and going on with their lives.
One has to wonder, though, if anything happened to the shooter afterward.
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:19 am
by longtooth
Sir you are terribly misinformed about the 9mm & .40.
I truly hope you never need a band aid because Johnson & Johnson don't make them to graft bone, kill infection, or heal wound paths.
No one is under armed w/ a 9mm or .40S&W.
LT

Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:55 am
by txflyer
Outside the victim’s field of view, the passenger had inserted a loaded magazine, and cycled the action with his index finger resting on the trigger, discharging the weapon.
If this is the case truly the case and the weapon is a 1911, it should not have discharged. Holding the trigger while dropping the slide should never result in a discharge unless the weapon is defective. If the weapon is not defective, then the person who loaded it must have released the trigger and then pressed it again.
In any case, the person who loaded the weapon is a complete moron for not making sure the weapon was pointed in a safe direction. There is simply no excuse for this kind of stupidity.
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:53 am
by KaiserB
txflyer wrote:Outside the victim’s field of view, the passenger had inserted a loaded magazine, and cycled the action with his index finger resting on the trigger, discharging the weapon.
If this is the case truly the case and the weapon is a 1911, it should not have discharged. Holding the trigger while dropping the slide should never result in a discharge unless the weapon is defective. If the weapon is not defective, then the person who loaded it must have released the trigger and then pressed it again.
In any case, the person who loaded the weapon is a complete moron for not making sure the weapon was pointed in a safe direction. There is simply no excuse for this kind of stupidity.
Or you may find this story fabricated, as the person in the backseat probably did not want to admit to an ND. In cases like this people will sometimes blame the weapon, when it was their own actions and mis-use that caused the issue.
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:47 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
I post on the forum where he posts quite a bit..he is slowly healing up and having to get skin grafts and other things
LRI is one of them
Guy is a former USMC grunt so thats probably one of the main reasons he wasn't flopping on the ground like a fish, "The Dude" is tough as nails!
It was his only passenger..and a buddy from work from what I got from his original posts, and thank God the guy only hit his arm and didn't put one center mass from behind!
More on it
Here, and the
Bullet he got shot with
***Warning*** private forum so language may be an issue ***
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:47 pm
by Excaliber
txflyer wrote:Outside the victim’s field of view, the passenger had inserted a loaded magazine, and cycled the action with his index finger resting on the trigger, discharging the weapon.
If this is the case truly the case and the weapon is a 1911, it should not have discharged. Holding the trigger while dropping the slide should never result in a discharge unless the weapon is defective. If the weapon is not defective, then the person who loaded it must have released the trigger and then pressed it again.
There is simply no excuse for this kind of stupidity.
In any case, the person who loaded the weapon is a complete moron for not making sure the weapon was pointed in a safe direction.
He was a moron for:
- Opening the range bag
- Touching another person's weapon that he didn't know how to operate safely
- Removing the weapon from the bag
- Loading the weapon
- Negligently discharging the weapon by pressing the trigger after the slide had gone into battery
It's hardly surprising that anyone who would do all of the above would not likely be concerned about little details like treating a gun you know to be loaded as loaded, pointing it in a safe direction, or keeping the finger outside the triggerguard.
I hope the victim preferred criminal charges and filed a massive civil suit for what this individual put him through. I can't think of a more deserving case.
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:05 pm
by longhorn_92
Thank the Good Lord that he is ok!
Another question....Do you suppose he will ever let the guy who shot him sit in the back seat again?....

Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:44 pm
by LarryH
or will he just beat the you-know-what out of him after he completes his recovery?
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:19 am
by DoubleJ
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Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:08 pm
by austin
This has been extensively discussed by LL on Warriortalk.
BTW, he is almost healed.
LL and his brother are phenomenal long range shooters and top notch guys, too.
Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:14 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
Well LL was a USMC grunt, and his brother is a scout sniper..they BETTER know how to shoot well

Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:46 pm
by Wildscar
longhorn_92 wrote:Thank the Good Lord that he is ok!
Another question....Do you suppose he will ever let the guy who shot him sit in the back seat again?....

I dont think I would let him back in my view let alone the back seat.

Re: Friend in back seat, with range bag...
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:06 pm
by bryang
He sounds like an incredible guy. I pray he will completely recover from his wound.
Did he ever say what happen to his back seat friend?
-geo