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Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:16 pm
by iratollah
by voting for candidates in all three parties that were on the ballot. Once I got past the overwhelming sense of nausea caused by the choices at the top of the ballot, I voted for the candidates I thought were best suited, or voted Libertarian as a protest vote where there was no suitable choice offered up by the two major parties.
I abhor straight ticket voting and find it a crutch for the lazy or feeble.
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:16 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
You did the right thing at the wrong time
Its your vote...not telling you how to vote but doing it that way just gets "the other guy" one more vote towards him
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Watch the 1 More B4 11 04
Heck watch em all starting farthest out..to most recent
Might be too little to late though
I just hope
The Bradley effect comes into play..pray for Chicago and Detroit...win or loose...its gonna get ugly up there!
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:47 pm
by Venus Pax
iratollah wrote:I abhor straight ticket voting and find it a crutch for the lazy or feeble.
Interesting you should say this. Harris County had 64% or 68% of voters vote a straight party ticket, whether republican or democrat. I didn't think very many people actually did that!
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:13 pm
by M9FAN
Russell wrote:I vote straight ticket Republican not because I'm lazy, but because I want to make sure at every level of government there's a better than average chance that my second amendment rights, and conservative economic values, will be respected.

Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:08 am
by iratollah
Russell wrote:I vote straight ticket Republican not because I'm lazy, but because I want to make sure at every level of government there's a better than average chance that my second amendment rights, and conservative economic values, will be respected.
There is no way that either party can offer up the very best candidate for all of the down ballot races, especially the judiciary. While I vote mostly Democrat, I always split my vote. Yesterday in Harris County, there were a number of highly qualified and competent Republican judges that got swept out of office by straight ticket voting, same as a dozen or so years ago when a number of very good Democrat judges lost their bench to straight ticket laziness.
Some states have outlawed straight ticket voting and high ranking party officials on both sides in Texas are speaking out more vociferously against straight ticket voting. 2A and economic values have nothing to do with some of the races. If you vote straight ticket, how do you know that you're not electing another Don Yarbrough to State Supreme Court? For that matter, how do you know that just because someone is Republican that they support 2A rights? Didn't our great Texas Republican hero, George W the 43rd, say that he would have signed AWB if it had been put in front of him?
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:38 am
by nitrogen
iratollah wrote:Russell wrote:Didn't our great Texas Republican hero, George W the 43rd, say that he would have signed AWB if it had been put in front of him?
As much as I disliked the man, I'm sure he was hedging a bet that congress would never send him one.
Still, he should have taken the principled position and said he wouldn't sign it.
The key here is this: We should learn something from Obama's win: We'll have to work at a grassroots level to keep this garbage from happening. That means WE need to do the work.
Maybe take some lessons from other activists group: Maybe a nationwide gunowners strike or something. Imagine what would happen if 80 million people took a day off?
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:57 am
by aardwolf
nitrogen wrote:Maybe take some lessons from other activists group: Maybe a nationwide gunowners strike or something. Imagine what would happen if 80 million people took a day off?
Imagine if they took four years off and the Obamatons had to finance their folly with their own money.
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:10 am
by bdickens
I used to split my vote. But after the junk that the Democtats pulled in Florida, then in Minnesota, then New Jersey and Ohio, and finally right here in Texas I swore to myself that I would never vote for anyone with a "D" by his name again. If Jesus came back and ran for dog catcher as a Democtat, I'd vote for Satan the Republican!
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:16 pm
by SCone
I cannot vote for a Dem, regardless of their position on the subject they still are affiliated with Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer and the like. Any vote for their party, while they are still in charge, is a vote for their ideas and policies.
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:22 pm
by TDDude
iratollah wrote:I abhor straight ticket voting and find it a crutch for the lazy or feeble.
Partial Birth Abortion, Infanticide of botched partial birth abortions (that means that the so called DOCTOR/BUTCHER kills a live, healthy baby after it has exited the birth canal because that DOCTOR/BUTCHER was too incompetent to kill that baby before the head popped out of the birth canal), Cut and Run out of the middle east, Massive redistribution of wealth, the destruction of the Pennsylvania coal industry, a massive "Civilian Defense Force" with a budget larger than that of the military, massive tax increases to corporations, massive capital gains tax increases, the total disarming of American citizens, ........... This is what you get with
ANYvote for
ANYdemocrat in this day and time.
Any vote for a libertarian is simply throwing your vote into the trash.
McCain is extremely liberal but at least we would have been able to hold him accountable. Democrats are
NEVER held accountable.
Liberman is going to get his rear spanked. He'll be lucky to be in charge of the elevator operators.
Since Democrats have the ability to march lock step with what their leadership wants, we are not voting for individuals anymore but rather voting for an ideology. I don't see how not voting straight ticket accomplishes anything except getting democrats elected.

Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:18 pm
by flb_78
Wow, lot's of Kool-Aid being drunk around here.
The Republicans don't care about the common citizen anymore then the Dems do. Almost all Federal and many local politicians only care about how to manipulate government for themselves and for their friends. If anything this election has shown us, is that the Republican party is a failure with nomination of John McCain. I have never liked him and could never understand how he was chosen to be the leader of the party. The Republicans have fallen a long ways from the Goldwater years.
I seriously suck trying to convey my thoughts into words and type.
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:54 pm
by iratollah
TDDude wrote:Since Democrats have the ability to march lock step with what their leadership wants, we are not voting for individuals anymore but rather voting for an ideology. I don't see how not voting straight ticket accomplishes anything except getting democrats elected.
Thanks TDDude for one of the most entertaining posts I've seen in a long time. You don't find Republicans interchangeable with Democrats in the quoted line? I don't see how views on pro-choice or anti-choice, the Pennsylvania coal industry, or 2A have anything to do with a County Tax Assessor election for instance. But I needed a laugh and the rage driving the fervor of your post is highly amusing, thanks!
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:55 pm
by dave_in_austin
I have always believed that party affiliations should be banned from the ballot. If a voter wants to vote for candidate based on only party affiliation, then the voter should be forced to take the trouble to learn which candidates are from his party of choice. There is no need to enable less-than-thoughtful voting by printing the party affiliation on the ballot or have an option for a straight party vote.
As an aside, how many of you are old enough to remember when Texas ballots had a box for a straight democratic ticket vote, but did not have one for a straight republican vote?
Re: Sharing the wealth...
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:20 pm
by Venus Pax
nitrogen wrote:Maybe take some lessons from other activists group: Maybe a nationwide gunowners strike or something. Imagine what would happen if 80 million people took a day off?
We can't even get half that number to pay a meager $35 per year to the NRA. I'm sure they're way too cheap to take a day off work.