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Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:43 pm
by atxgun
Even though this is in NY when ever I hear about anyone talking about microstamping/ammo id junk I can't help but think that's going to end up affecting production nationwide.
1) Create a Statewide Coalition of Mayors and County Executives to Stop the Flow of Illegal Guns: Using HUD's Communities for Safer Guns Coalition as a model, the new statewide coalition of mayors and county executives will hold gun manufacturers and dealers accountable for the responsible sale of their products. Members of the coalition will purchase firearms for their police departments only from gun manufacturers and dealers that adhere to the code of conduct as outlined in the proposed statewide Gun Industry Responsibility Act (GIRA) (see below).
2) Require Smart Gun Technology: As provided for in the HUD Safe Gun Agreement, once available, all new guns in New York State would be required to feature "smart gun" technology to ensure that only authorized purchasers could fire their gun.
3) Require Microstamping of Guns to Help Law Enforcement Track Down Illegal Guns and Solve Crimes: All new semiautomatic handguns sold in New York will be required to be equipped with microstamping technology. Microstamping is a new identification technology that complements current ballistic fingerprinting. The basic technology involves making precise microscopic engravings of the make and model of the gun on the firing pin or inside the chamber of the gun. When the firearm is discharged, that imprint is stamped onto the shell casing, allowing it to be read by the police. This technology will enable law enforcement to immediately read the microscopic serial numbers on the shell casings and link the evidence to the specific gun that fired the round. The immediate response-time could provide critical case leads at the beginning of a criminal investigation. While effective, our current ballistic fingerprinting technology requires police and forensic laboratory specialists to undergo the additional step of analyzing and comparing the subtle markings left by each firearm on shell casings with the gun or another shell casing.
4) Ban Sale of "Saturday Night Specials" or Junk Guns: These guns are favored by criminals because of their low cost and ability to be easily concealed. They are traditionally not used for sport or self-defense because of their inaccuracy. Currently, Maryland and Massachusetts ban these junk guns, while a number of other states heavily regulate their sale.
5) Fight to Enact Comprehensive Package of Existing Proposals: Enactment of a series of bills will help to curb illegal trafficking and accidental gun violence. (See attached.)
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:55 pm
by bdickens
How about a five-point plan to keep violemnt criminal scumbags off the streets?
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:25 pm
by boomerang
bdickens wrote:How about a five-point plan to keep violemnt criminal scumbags off the streets?
But then who would vote for him and his cronies?
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:28 pm
by jimlongley
Andy is his father's son.
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:32 am
by casingpoint
When the shooting starts, I would prefer the criminal have cheap guns while I have the best money can buy.
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:14 am
by CHL/LEO
Even though this is in NY...
According to the latest news, it sounds like there is a very good chance that the NY Governor will appoint him as the Senator to replace Hillary. Then we will get to deal with this nonsense on a national level.
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:46 pm
by Furyataurus
How will "microstamping" be effective if the gun is stolen???? I wonder why they don't mention that "microstamping" can be removed by common house tools i.e. a file.
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:30 pm
by Kythas
Furyataurus wrote:How will "microstamping" be effective if the gun is stolen???? I wonder why they don't mention that "microstamping" can be removed by common house tools i.e. a file.
Not only that, it wears out after firing a few thousand rounds, making the microstamping unreadable.
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:09 pm
by atxgun
I'd really like to know the stats of how many gun related crimes are committed with stolen weapons vs those legally purchased by the person that pulled the trigger.
Edit: I started to try and find some stats and the first piece of evidence I came across was discouraging
http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/glance/firearmnonfatalno.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Considering the numbers started drop at the creation of the AWB and rise after it expired
Edit # 2: ahh the answer to my question (further down the same page)
According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from -
# a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
# a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
# family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:14 pm
by nitrogen
How about a 5 point plan to teach government officials how to write properly?
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:22 pm
by boomerang
To do my part to help keep guns off the street, I pledge to adopt at least one rifle and one pistol in 2009.
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:53 am
by grim-bob
fortunately it looks like he will not be replacing Hillary in the Senate.
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:03 am
by nitrogen
grim-bob wrote:fortunately it looks like he will not be replacing Hillary in the Senate.
Yep, we got a pro gun democrat in there instead.
Re: Andrew Cuomo's Five-Point Plan to Keep Guns Off Our Streets
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:39 pm
by AWB09
