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I'm looking to lower the cost of shooting .

Who has any experience with either Rainier or Berry bullets in 9mm and/or .45acp calibers? Similarly, it appears that Midway may have the best prices du jour. As stated in a previous post, I'll be using up Green Dot and 700-X powder left over from yesteryear.

Thanks, I'll appreciate your input and suggestions.

I know it's not the bullets you mentioned but you might consider Missouri Bullet company. Their stuff seems pretty nice though they aren't plated. I have used their .45 ACP LSWC 200gr. bullets and have got their 125 gr. 9mm RN but haven't shot them yet.

There was a group buy a while ago with Precision Bullets. They're cheaper then most. They're not jacketed or plated but instead, have a polymer coating that doesn't foul up the barrel. Most were very pleased with the product.

http://www.precisionbullets.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have used Raineer for the past several years with good results B.J.

For 45Acp, I haven't been that happy with Berry, but Rainers are fine. For 9mm I've used Remington 124gr JHP (bulk at Midway) and also these which are popular with the USPSA crowd:

http://www.montanagoldbullet.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.zerobullets.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My current .45acp load is actually Rainer 200gr JHP over green dot.

I've been using 380 and 9mm Rainier and Berry bullets for several years now without any issues. I really like them and have found reasonable prices through the Cabela's just up the road from me.

ghostrider wrote:For 45Acp, I haven't been that happy with Berry, but Rainers are fine. For 9mm I've used Remington 124gr JHP (bulk at Midway) and also these which are popular with the USPSA crowd:

http://www.montanagoldbullet.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.zerobullets.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My current .45acp load is actually Rainer 200gr JHP over green dot.

I have used both of the above also in the 9mm, 38sp, & .45acp. They are both excellent choices & very competetive.

Mornin' Everybody,

I really appreciate the response and suggestions and have been searching the web for additional info and best prices. It seems that components, at least 9mm Rainier bullets, are in about as short a supply as ammo is.

Does anybody have any loading data and/or thoughts on cast lead bullets?

Thanks again,

Greg

Oldgringo wrote: Mornin' Everybody,

I really appreciate the response and suggestions and have been searching the web for additional info and best prices. It seems that components, at least 9mm Rainier bullets, are in about as short a supply as ammo is.

Does anybody have any loading data and/or thoughts on cast lead bullets?

Thanks again,

Greg

I would use moly/poly coated lead... it smokes a whole lot less. Here are some loads I have used in the past:

32 9mm x 19 115 GR. FMJ RN Hodgdon Titegroup .355" 1.125" 4.5 1,135 29,500 CUP 4.8 1,158 30,500 CUP 4.6 1,150 1.125 $0.13 IDPA load 130,525 133,170
33 9mm x 19 115 GR. LRN Hodgdon Titegroup .356" 1.100" 3.9 1,075 25,800 CUP 4.3 1,151 30,500 CUP 4.3 1.169 123,625 132,365
34 9mm x 19 115 GR. LRN Moly Coat Hodgdon  Universal  .356"  1.100"  4.0 1,034 24,400 CUP  4.5 1,124 31,300 CUP  4.4 1,100 2.250 $0.13 Inconsistent 118,910 129,260
35 9mm x 19 115 GR. LRN Moly Coat Hodgdon  HP-38  .356"  1.100"  4.3 1,079 28,400 CUP  4.8 1,135 32,000 CUP  4.6 1,100 1.100 $0.13 Medium 124,085 130,525
36 9mm x 19 115 GR. LRN Moly Coat Hodgdon  HP-38  .356"  1.100"  4.3 1,079 28,400 CUP  4.8 1,135 32,000 CUP  4.5 1,100 1.100 $0.13 Light 124,085 130,525
37 9mm x 19 115 GR. SPR GDHP Hodgdon Titegroup .355" 1.125" 4.5 1,135 29,500 CUP 4.8 1,158 30,500 CUP 4.7 1.169 Medium Hot 130,525 133,170
38 9mm x 19 115 GR. TMJ (Berrys) Hodgdon Titegroup .355" 1.125" 4.5 1,135 29,500 CUP 4.8 1,158 30,500 CUP 4.6 1,150 1.125 $0.13 IDPA load 130,525 133,170
39 9mm x 19 124 GR. TMJ Hodgdon  Titegroup  .355"  1.090"  4.1 1,069 27,300 CUP  4.4 1,136 30,600 CUP  4.2 1,090 1.090 $0.13 Based on SMI FMJ 132,556 140,864
40 9mm x 19 125 GR. LCN  Hodgdon  Universal  .356"  1.125"  3.8 993 24,400 CUP  4.3 1,096 31,300 CUP  4.1 1,000 1.125 $0.13 123,132 135,904

I've stumbled across a great reloading site: /www.handloads.org/loaddata/ . This site has a ton of different loading recipes for just about all calibers and all components. HOORAY!

If I could find some bullets; e.g., 9mm luger and .45 acp, I'd be .

I've been using Berry's for about a year now. Between the better half and I, we have fired over 3600 rounds with near a thousand on hand. My load is 4.6 gr. IMR700X, CCI primer, Berry 230 gr. rn. Only one failure to fire caused by primer seating issue.

sbb wrote:I've been using Berry's for about a year now. Between the better half and I, we have fired over 3600 rounds with near a thousand on hand. My load is 4.6 gr. IMR700X, CCI primer, Berry 230 gr. rn. Only one failure to fire caused by primer seating issue.

Thanks for the endorsement. Now if I could only find an outfit that had either Berry or Rainier 9mm's or .45 acp's in stock.

Order from Berry's website, http://www.berrysmfg.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, there are no shipping charges on orders over $50.00 and no sales tax. They have plenty in stock. I just ordered 1000 rds. of .452 230 gr. for a little less than $125.00.

sbb wrote:Order from Berry's website, http://www.berrysmfg.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, there are no shipping charges on orders over $50.00 and no sales tax. They have plenty in stock. I just ordered 1000 rds. of .452 230 gr. for a little less than $125.00.

Thanks again, I just looked at their site. There was no mention of lubication requirements for the plated bullets. Do Berry's plated bullets require lubication?

No lube required. Place em and seat em. Check for OAL and you're good to go.