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neck knives
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:56 pm
by 05kas05
i was wondering if wearing a neck knife is legal in texas if anyone could chime in and let me know it would be appreciated.also if you have a recomendation for a particular one let me hear it thanks in advance-sorry spelling is off today
Re: neck knives
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:06 pm
by boomerang
There's no legal difference in Texas between carrying in a belt sheath, in a neck sheath, in your pocket or in your boot.
Re: neck knives
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:01 pm
by fm2
I am a big fan of the small fixed blade knife. If you choose neck carry, remember the knife can swing on the end of the chain and move around if you end up on the ground/wrestling or someone gets neck control on ya. I have seen them move around to the back or come out above the neckline of a shirt.
Re: neck knives
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:04 am
by jbirds1210
Here is the Texas penal code on knives:
"Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
(D) bowie knife;
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.
(7) "Knife" means any bladed hand instrument that is capable of inflicting serious bodily
injury or death by cutting or stabbing a person with the instrument.
I have a little hideaway knife that I get creative with.....it is rarely hung around my neck because I just can't get to it fast enough. I like having a small (very sharp) fixed blade knife around.
Re: neck knives
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:35 pm
by Seburiel
By way of hijacking this thread, has there ever been a definitive legal interpretation as to what the Texas legislature means when they use the term 'dagger' (Stilleto, dirk and poiniard I have a grasp of) I know most people that I have asked simply state that it means any double-edged knife.
-S.
Re: neck knives
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:46 pm
by hirundo82
I'm not aware of any case law that defines "dagger," but "double-edged blade" is a definition that is commonly referred to.
FWIW, the
dictionary defines it as "a sharp pointed knife for stabbing"--i.e. a knife that is designed primarily for stabbing rather than cutting.
Re: neck knives
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:55 pm
by boomerang
mikejarhead wrote:Does that mean that is illegal to carry on your body?
Generally yes. Safer legally to carry a single edge < 5.5" blade.
mikejarhead wrote:What about in a vechicle?
It depends who you ask.
Re: neck knives
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:50 am
by jbirds1210
mikejarhead wrote:Does that mean that is illegal to carry on your body?
What about in a vechicle?
Sec. 46.02. Unlawful. Carrying Weapons.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on
or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(2) inside of or directly enroute to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under
the person's control.<SNIP>
In your car would not be illegal according to chaper 46 of the penal code. I realize that everyone is responsible for their own decisions, but I would not test this. Isn't it funny that it never mentions any exception for being enroute
from a motor vehicle
Jason
Re: neck knives
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:29 pm
by 05kas05
ok so its legal but not recommended to carry a neck knife.alot of you recommend a small fix blade knife could you tell me which one you choose pics would be great but not necassery.i carry a swiss army knife with a nonlockable blade for general duty.i want to get a new knife and like the self assisted openers but i am affraid some cop will say its a switchblade or something and i dont want that trouble.i recently got my chl and dont want to loose it because i bought the wrong knife.i was looking at a kershaw leek or a fixed blade like this one do you think i would be ok with either of these.
Re: neck knives
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:31 pm
by fm2
The pictured FB knife looks fine. Think about carry methods you'll be using. The OAL is important, depending on your planned carry method, 5" - 6.5" OAL is a good length for a defensive blade carried horizontal. You can get away with a little longer for IWB carry etc...
Here's some to start your search off with.
ShivWorks Clinchpick
Benchmade 211 Activator
Benchmade 220 fixed resistor
BENCHMADE 155 FIXED PRESIDIO
Benchmade tether
CRKT FIXED FALCON KNIFE
CRKT Folts Minimalist
CRK-2010, CRKT, Crawford Kasper Dragon,
CRK-2030CW, CRKT, Crawford Triumph N.E.C.K. Knife
The sheath is usually the weakest part of the knife "package". So for all but the first one I'd plan on spending money on a custom sheath. They can be had for $30-$50 IIRC, and they are worth it!
Re: neck knives
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:46 pm
by 74novaman
jbirds1210 wrote:Here is the Texas penal code on knives:
"Illegal knife" means a:
(D) bowie knife;
Sad day when a Bowie Knife is illegal in Texas.

Re: neck knives
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:11 pm
by gmckinl
fm2 wrote: 5" - 6.5" is a good length
Might want to rethink that advice, given that
""Illegal knife" means a: (A) knife with a blade
over five and one-half inches;".
Re: neck knives
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:52 pm
by SlowDave
gmckinl wrote:fm2 wrote: 5" - 6.5" is a good length
Might want to rethink that advice, given that
""Illegal knife" means a: (A) knife with a blade
over five and one-half inches;".
I think his 5-6.5" recommendation is relative to overall length (fixed blade), of which ~1/2 would be blade.
How does this go with another thread I was just reading that a lockblade knife of
under 5.5" blade length is illegal? Yeah, the
NIOSA thread.
So, do I conclude from that that legal knives are:
a) fixed blades < 5.5"
b) no lockblade folders at all (lockblades have to be >5.5, but blades over 5.5 are illegal anyway)?
c) non-locking folders < 5.5"
???????
[edit: oh, I think I just got the other poster's comment. Since lockblades under 5.5" are illegal and knives with blades over 5.5 are illegal, you need a lockblade that is exactly 5.5". Now I need to know how that's measured, exactly, and I need to get a pocket extension.]
Also, agreed on the Bowie knife. Sad day indeed.
Re: neck knives
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:06 pm
by B3XD
Look at HideAway Knives.
http://www.hideawayknife.com/main.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; There are other ways of carrying them that work well.