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HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:34 am
by AEA
Not sure if this was ever posted. It was created September 2005.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGwkHktkTxU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice HK.......... :thumbs2:

Pretty strange action of Colt....... :shock: :???:

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:42 am
by RECIT
Those are strange results for sure. I doubt tons of M16's blew up in the hands of soldiers in Vietnam. I wasn't there though so I don't know.

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:48 am
by The Annoyed Man
RECIT wrote:Those are strange results for sure. I doubt tons of M16's blew up in the hands of soldiers in Vietnam. I wasn't there though so I don't know.
They didn't blow up. Quite a few jammed until the military figured out you had to clean them, teach people how to do that, and more importantly, provide a cleaning kit to do it with.

But the HK nonsense is just that... Some ninja-boy playing commando in a water hole. Big deal. I'm sure the HK is a fine weapon. Is it orders of magnitude better than the M16? Probably not. And finally, comparing a battlefield weapon (the HK) to a competition model (the Colt) automatically invalidates the test. I'm sure my dad's old rattling loose 1943 Ithaca 1911A1 will perform better after soaking in mud than a Les Baer race gun. Big woop.

Lastly, the music on the video causes me to question the gender preferences of the shooter. It reminded me of the old Mike Meyers "Sprockets" skits. :mrgreen:

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:09 am
by Medino
Lastly, the music on the video causes me to question the gender preferences of the shooter. It reminded me of the old Mike Meyers "Sprockets" skits. :mrgreen:
First of all he was not speaking English sounded like German. If you have never been in Europe before you would know they prefer Techno to Rock for whatever reason at least the areas i was in.

Back to the point the M16 platform has had its issues most have been worked out over the past decades. If the problems were that catastrophic than i am sure we would not be using it in the military so it can't be that bad.

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:53 pm
by barres
I know the former SEAL guy on Future Weapons (I think that was the name of the show) on Discovery really liked the HK 416. But I don't think that guy ever found a firearm or other weapon he didn't absolutely love!

Oh yeah, the guy's name was Mack something-or-other.

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:46 pm
by longhorn_92
The HK 416 is unavailable to the American public, right?....

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:34 pm
by AEA
Not only is it unavailable to America, It is a Class 3 Full Auto weapon that would be unobtainable by the majority of civilians even if it does come to the US.

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:10 pm
by Commander Cody
M16's? Mine worked well.

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:05 pm
by One Shot
The HK 416 is very nice, doesn't get very dirty, and is plenty accurate.
A civilian version (semi-auto) will be "available" in the US later this year.
I'd go for the 417, (7.62) though,

Re: HK416 -vs- Colt

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:49 pm
by longhorn_92
One Shot wrote:The HK 416 is very nice, doesn't get very dirty, and is plenty accurate.
A civilian version (semi-auto) will be "available" in the US later this year.
I'd go for the 417, (7.62) though,
I found this info:

MR556 RIFLE

A direct descendent of the HK416, the MR556 is a semi-automatic rifle developed by Heckler & Koch as a premium level commercial/civilian firearm. Like the HK416, the MR556 is a major product improvement of conventional AR-type carbines and rifles.

Using the HK-proprietary gas piston system found on the HK416 and G36, the MR556 does not introduce propellant gases and carbon fouling back into the rifle's interior, making it the most reliable of any AR-type firearm.

The MR556 will be produced at Heckler & Koch's new manufacturing facility at Newington, New Hampshire from American and German made components. To conform to German export regulations, certain design changes made in the MR556 prevents the rifle's upper receiver from being used on other AR-style firearms.

The MR556 uses many of the assemblies and accessories originally developed for the HK416 series arms including the HK free-floating fourquadrant rail system/handguard. This system allows all current accessories, sights, lights, and aimers used on M4/M16-type weapons to be fitted to the MR556. The HK rail system can be installed and removed without tools and returns to zero when reinstalled.

Like the famous HK416, the MR556 uses a barrel produced by Heckler & Koch's famous cold hammer forging process. The highest quality steel is used in this unique manufacturing process producing a barrel that provides superior accuracy for more than 20,000 rounds with minimal degradation of accuracy and muzzle velocity.

Projected availability of the MR556 in the USA is late 2009.


(also available in 7.62x51)...

http://www.hk-usa.com/rifles_mr762_general.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;