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FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:51 am
by seamusTX
Orlando, Florida, June 31 -- A 43-year-old Canadian man who was a regular customer at a shooting range rented a gun, fired a few shots at targets, then fatally shot himself in the head. No motive is known.

It was the second suicide at that range in a year, and the fourth in south Florida since April.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/or ... vestigated" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Jim

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:27 am
by Drewthetexan
:mad5 :banghead:

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:15 pm
by WEC
Tragic for the community and for that particular shooting range.

What are they putting in the water in Orlando? Sheesh.

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:23 pm
by USA1
what in the world is going on ? :confused5
this seems to have become a trend :nono:

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:04 pm
by seamusTX
Suicide is contagious.

Sometimes, when a teenager commits suicide, other teenagers in the area will make successful or unsuccessful attempts. It also happens to some extent after a celebrity suicide.

- Jim

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:55 pm
by quidni
usa1 wrote:what in the world is going on ? :confused5
this seems to have become a trend :nono:
Not to make light of the deaths, because they are tragic. May God grant peace to their families.

But I'm waiting for someone to take their cue from the last 8 years and say:

"It's Obama's fault."

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:48 pm
by seamusTX
Another one:

http://www.wesh.com/r/24633697/detail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bizarre.

- Jim

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:17 pm
by OldCannon
"Bring a gun or bring a friend" is a common rental rule at many ranges that rent. It's an extremely effective deterrent.

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:53 am
by seamusTX
Well, if the person had a gun he wouldn't need to go to the range to commit suicide, and if he had a friend he might not want to commit suicide.

- Jim

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:35 am
by Keith B
Even bringing their own gun doesn't stop it. I personally know of two cases that the person used their own guns. One was an AR-15 and the other a handgun. I think many people think that committing the act at the range will hold less connection to the house or other personal location for the family that is left behind. It also means the family doesn't have to deal with the aftermath of clean-up.

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:15 am
by OldCannon
Keith B wrote:Even bringing their own gun doesn't stop it. I personally know of two cases that the person used their own guns. One was an AR-15 and the other a handgun. I think many people think that committing the act at the range will hold less connection to the house or other personal location for the family that is left behind. It also means the family doesn't have to deal with the aftermath of clean-up.
Oh, even I'm not naive enough to think it completely prevents these events. Suicides are complex things, but the "bring a gun or bring a friend" rule does two effective things: 1) Removes "easy access" to a gun for those that are emotionally despondent, and 2) people are always less likely to commit the act in front of a friend.

Of course, the other issue is that these kind of suicides are _extremely_ rare (given overall percentages), but get a lot of press due to the spectacle and location.

Re: FL: Another suicide at shooting range

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:31 am
by seamusTX
Of course, the other issue is that these kind of suicides are _extremely_ rare (given overall percentages), but get a lot of press ...
This is an actual fact. About 100 people a day commit suicide in the U.S. You will never hear about most of them, which are accomplished by drug overdoses or self-shooting at home or some remote location. It's the public shootings, train jumpers, and bridge jumpers that get the publicity.

BTW, the U.S. is pretty much in the middle of suicide rates among countries. If this wikipedia article is accurate, the rates are all over the map and make no sense in terms of culture, religion, or economics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Jim