justified in force on the x wife for forcing into my home?
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:37 am
I have a real life scenario that just happened tonight I'd like some feedback on if you folks don't mind. Now that the officers are gone and I've had a while to chill and process the events of the evening I'm wondering a few things. Maybe some of you have been in similar situations and have some input/advice, etc.
Let me give you a quick bit of background. Just bear with me, we'll get to the relevant part, i promise.
I have joint custody of my 9 year old daughter. She lives with my X who has managing conservatorship, and gets to visit me in what is a basic 100+ miles apart Texas visitation agreement. My divorce decree clearly states that since this is a holiday weekend I get to keep my daughter for visitation through monday evening. That has been acknowledged by all parties involved.
In an effort to ease relation and help facilitate communications I have taken to sending calendar invites to my X wife to arrange visitation schedules. I am by no means required to do this in our agreement, but because there are 200+ miles between us it has helped on many occasions. I am only required by my decree to notify when I will NOT be exercising visitation. I usually send these calendar invites 2-3 months in advance.
When I sent the invite for this weekend (2-3 months ago) I didn't realize monday was a school holiday and I got to keep my daughter for an extra day. I realized this about a week ago. I notified my X in email just as I send the calendar invites in email and said I realize I made a mistake on this weekend, please plan on picking our daughter up on Monday instead of the regular Sunday. I sent this email over a week ago, plenty of notice.
My X didn't like this and basically gave me the "tough luck" response saying she would be here to pick my daughter up on Sunday anyway. I explained (politely, i've learned over the years not to get drug into an argument) that our paperwork clearly states I get visitation through until Monday. She again stated she didn't care, etc.. This conversation happened in email.
I go to pick my daughter up on Friday. She tries to start another fight on the subject saying she's going to be there on Sunday anyway and if I don't turn over our daughter to her then she's calling the police, yadda yadda. Again, not wanting to get drug into an argument I just turn around and walk away as she's screaming at me in the middle of her apartment court yard in front of our daughter and witnesses at the complex pool... that was a lovely sight let me tell you.
Now, at this point I could have just sucked it up and agreed to let my daughter go back early on Sunday, but the X has really taken to bullying me lately on various issues so I'm just not as inclined to work with her. I also get very very little time with my daughter as it is because we live so far apart so an extra day on a weekend is honestly a big deal to us.
Again, in an effort to avoid confrontation we make plans to not even be at home during the normal sunday pick-up hours (6pm). We're at a BBQ at a friends house from 4pm - 8:30pm . We get home to a note on the door from the X stating she was here to pick up our daughter at 6:15 and nobody was here. I'm thinking i dodged the bullet and avoided the confrontation.
9:15 pm rolls around. Someone is banging on my door, rather harshly. I go peek through the hole and there's the X.... I tell my daughter to go to her room and close the door, because there is likely to be an argument and I don't want her involved to a witness. I open the door about 8 inches (in hindsight, my first mistake was right here) to tell her she's not getting my daughter. A short conversation ensues basically to the same effect as above. I finally tell her, "look, I'm just not going to argue about this, you need to leave. get off my property. come back tomorrow at the correct time and you can get her." She starts screaming at me again so I go to close the door all the way. She immediately throws herself against the door (admittedly I didn't expect this, she's never been violent before, only confrontational) causing it to smack into my face and tries to force herself into the apartment.
I have about 200 lbs on her though so i easily recover (though admittedly a bit stunned) and push back against the door, forcing her almost completely out. At the last second she jams her foot in the door holding it open. I call for my wife to hand me my cell phone and i immediately call 911 as I'm holding my weight against the door so she can't press in any further. My cell is on speaker phone so she hears 911 pick up and i start calling for police assistance and giving them my information. As soon as she hears this she throws something in the door, removes her foot and takes off.
I tell the operator that she finally left, but I need a unit out to file a report. I explain everything to the officer, get an incident report and tell him I want to press assault charges.
So, here are my questions...
I know I was justified in using force to keep her out of my apartment when she's trying to force her way in.
What are the chances that the assault charge will stick? She didn't hit me with the door hard enough to leave a mark, but she did smack me pretty good.
If she had actually managed to force her way into the apartment, what legal standing would have been in effect at that point? She's not a burglar, but she's certainly invading my home by force.
She has stated clearly that she does not intend to pick up my daughter tomorrow (monday). Does that constitute abandonment if she doesn't? In either case, what actions should I take to protect myself in this situation? Whom should I call and inform that she has basically refused to pick up my daughter in accordance with our decree? I do NOT want her to turn this situation around on me.
I'm currently putting my wife through nursing school so we just don't have the cash to go out and hire a lawyer right now so I will have to handle this myself. I'm wondering if I shouldn't look into filing a motion for contempt with the court if she doesn't pick her up on monday as our decree says she has to.
As of Tuesday, my daughter will be missing school which is 200+ miles away. I can't take her to school 200+ miles away and pick her up, but I'm not sure I can enroll her locally because I don't have managing conservatorship in our custody agreement. We have joint custody. A friend of mine who used to work at a crisis center suggested that since our decree states that the X is responsible for picking up our daughter on monday evening that if she hasn't done picked her up by Tuesday I should call her school and notify them of the situation so they can take action against the X for truancy, etc. since she should have picked her up, etc.
some folks may suggest that the X will cool down and pick her up tomorrow, but i highly doubt that knowing the track record involved her.
How could I have handled in this situation better, aside from the obvious not opening the door?
** note to the moderators. I realize it's not encouraged to post real life situations on the board that may involve pending legal issues, but I'm honestly just at a loss as to what to do in this situation. I could really use some guidance / information here, both for my sake and for my daughter's.
Let me give you a quick bit of background. Just bear with me, we'll get to the relevant part, i promise.
I have joint custody of my 9 year old daughter. She lives with my X who has managing conservatorship, and gets to visit me in what is a basic 100+ miles apart Texas visitation agreement. My divorce decree clearly states that since this is a holiday weekend I get to keep my daughter for visitation through monday evening. That has been acknowledged by all parties involved.
In an effort to ease relation and help facilitate communications I have taken to sending calendar invites to my X wife to arrange visitation schedules. I am by no means required to do this in our agreement, but because there are 200+ miles between us it has helped on many occasions. I am only required by my decree to notify when I will NOT be exercising visitation. I usually send these calendar invites 2-3 months in advance.
When I sent the invite for this weekend (2-3 months ago) I didn't realize monday was a school holiday and I got to keep my daughter for an extra day. I realized this about a week ago. I notified my X in email just as I send the calendar invites in email and said I realize I made a mistake on this weekend, please plan on picking our daughter up on Monday instead of the regular Sunday. I sent this email over a week ago, plenty of notice.
My X didn't like this and basically gave me the "tough luck" response saying she would be here to pick my daughter up on Sunday anyway. I explained (politely, i've learned over the years not to get drug into an argument) that our paperwork clearly states I get visitation through until Monday. She again stated she didn't care, etc.. This conversation happened in email.
I go to pick my daughter up on Friday. She tries to start another fight on the subject saying she's going to be there on Sunday anyway and if I don't turn over our daughter to her then she's calling the police, yadda yadda. Again, not wanting to get drug into an argument I just turn around and walk away as she's screaming at me in the middle of her apartment court yard in front of our daughter and witnesses at the complex pool... that was a lovely sight let me tell you.
Now, at this point I could have just sucked it up and agreed to let my daughter go back early on Sunday, but the X has really taken to bullying me lately on various issues so I'm just not as inclined to work with her. I also get very very little time with my daughter as it is because we live so far apart so an extra day on a weekend is honestly a big deal to us.
Again, in an effort to avoid confrontation we make plans to not even be at home during the normal sunday pick-up hours (6pm). We're at a BBQ at a friends house from 4pm - 8:30pm . We get home to a note on the door from the X stating she was here to pick up our daughter at 6:15 and nobody was here. I'm thinking i dodged the bullet and avoided the confrontation.
9:15 pm rolls around. Someone is banging on my door, rather harshly. I go peek through the hole and there's the X.... I tell my daughter to go to her room and close the door, because there is likely to be an argument and I don't want her involved to a witness. I open the door about 8 inches (in hindsight, my first mistake was right here) to tell her she's not getting my daughter. A short conversation ensues basically to the same effect as above. I finally tell her, "look, I'm just not going to argue about this, you need to leave. get off my property. come back tomorrow at the correct time and you can get her." She starts screaming at me again so I go to close the door all the way. She immediately throws herself against the door (admittedly I didn't expect this, she's never been violent before, only confrontational) causing it to smack into my face and tries to force herself into the apartment.
I have about 200 lbs on her though so i easily recover (though admittedly a bit stunned) and push back against the door, forcing her almost completely out. At the last second she jams her foot in the door holding it open. I call for my wife to hand me my cell phone and i immediately call 911 as I'm holding my weight against the door so she can't press in any further. My cell is on speaker phone so she hears 911 pick up and i start calling for police assistance and giving them my information. As soon as she hears this she throws something in the door, removes her foot and takes off.
I tell the operator that she finally left, but I need a unit out to file a report. I explain everything to the officer, get an incident report and tell him I want to press assault charges.
So, here are my questions...
I know I was justified in using force to keep her out of my apartment when she's trying to force her way in.
What are the chances that the assault charge will stick? She didn't hit me with the door hard enough to leave a mark, but she did smack me pretty good.
If she had actually managed to force her way into the apartment, what legal standing would have been in effect at that point? She's not a burglar, but she's certainly invading my home by force.
She has stated clearly that she does not intend to pick up my daughter tomorrow (monday). Does that constitute abandonment if she doesn't? In either case, what actions should I take to protect myself in this situation? Whom should I call and inform that she has basically refused to pick up my daughter in accordance with our decree? I do NOT want her to turn this situation around on me.
I'm currently putting my wife through nursing school so we just don't have the cash to go out and hire a lawyer right now so I will have to handle this myself. I'm wondering if I shouldn't look into filing a motion for contempt with the court if she doesn't pick her up on monday as our decree says she has to.
As of Tuesday, my daughter will be missing school which is 200+ miles away. I can't take her to school 200+ miles away and pick her up, but I'm not sure I can enroll her locally because I don't have managing conservatorship in our custody agreement. We have joint custody. A friend of mine who used to work at a crisis center suggested that since our decree states that the X is responsible for picking up our daughter on monday evening that if she hasn't done picked her up by Tuesday I should call her school and notify them of the situation so they can take action against the X for truancy, etc. since she should have picked her up, etc.
some folks may suggest that the X will cool down and pick her up tomorrow, but i highly doubt that knowing the track record involved her.
How could I have handled in this situation better, aside from the obvious not opening the door?
** note to the moderators. I realize it's not encouraged to post real life situations on the board that may involve pending legal issues, but I'm honestly just at a loss as to what to do in this situation. I could really use some guidance / information here, both for my sake and for my daughter's.