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FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:04 pm
by seamusTX
I was hoping that this incident would fade away quietly, but now it is worldwide news, once again illustrating that Americans are morons with guns.

At a shooting range in Lakeland, Florida (Tampa area) Saturday, someone discharged a handgun multiple times, injuring three people. An Irish tourist required surgery and is currently listed in stable condition (stable is not the same as good).

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,559904,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is no excuse for this kind of thing. The right to keep and bear arms stands side-by-side with the obligation to have two working brain cells. Forrest Gump could do it.
:banghead:

- Jim

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:12 pm
by karl
WOW! I hope the owners of the gun get the maximum fine/jail sentence possible. That is absolutely inexcusable.

Edit:

I take back what I said (sorta). Didn't know Jennings were that bad.

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:18 pm
by joe817
The first mistake the gun range safety officer made was allowing a jennings to be admitted to the range at all.

IMO, that gun defined the "Saturday Night Special". I don't know of a more dangerous gun that's ever been manufactured than that one. Please read:

http://bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/bryco.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In addition, the people trying to fire that gun probably had no concept what so ever of gun safety. Again, IMO.

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:55 pm
by dewayneward
I just done like the phrase in the fox report "accidentally". That implies that there was no external force that caused it fire on its own. I am trying to figure out how we got ourselves another "magic bullet" since the gun is ALWAYS suppose to be aimed downrange and never at another human being :rules:

...9mm accidentally went off Saturday, or what caused the handgun to fire. The pistol was a Jennings make.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,559 ... latestnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I bet Grady is salivating over this one..... :banghead:

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:54 am
by seamusTX
According to this story, the weapon was loaded and on the bench when it somehow went into full-auto mode and fired every cartridge in the magazine.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafe ... le/1041591" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
[The woman who was shot] said her son, ... brought the 9mm back to the United States after one of his tours in Iraq with the Navy. He gave it to them this summer.
BATFE is going to be very interested in this. Somebody got some 'splainin' to do.

- Jim

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:14 pm
by joe817
BATFE is going to be very interested in this. Somebody got some 'splainin' to do.
:iagree: You should read the horror stories on that url I posted above. It's a wonder they are still being allowed to make such junk.

Jennings/Bryco = Sat.Night Special = dangerous gun of the highest magnitude.

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:30 pm
by seamusTX
Jennings and Bryco are defunct, but there are millions of old, cheap pistols and revolvers out there. A guy I know collected them when they could be bought for $10 or $20. Some of them are built like cap guns.

Most countries in the world have strict weapons regulations, but (ironically), a person who qualifies for a firearms permit at all can own full-auto weapons or "silencers" much more readily than the U.S. Maybe this piece came from one of those countries.

- Jim

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:53 pm
by Oldgringo
seamusTX wrote:

The right to keep and bear arms stands side-by-side with the obligation to have two working brain cells.
Truer words and sentiment are seldom spoken.

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:19 pm
by MoJo
joe817 wrote:
IMO, that gun defined the "Saturday Night Special". I don't know of a more dangerous gun that's ever been manufactured than that one.

Actually, the German made RG was the definition of "Saturday Night Special" a cheaply made short barreled revolver. The Raven/Jennings/Bryco/Jimenez guns just refined the definition. The best thing anyone can do if they have one of these pieces of junk is to take it apart and smash it with a sledge hammer and send it to the scrap man. Any of these guns are subject to break under spring tension. I don't doubt this story of "it just went off." :shock:

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:26 pm
by JJVP
seamusTX wrote:I was hoping that this incident would fade away quietly, but now it is worldwide news, once again illustrating that Americans are morons with guns.

At a shooting range in Lakeland, Florida (Tampa area) Saturday, someone discharged a handgun multiple times, injuring three people. An Irish tourist required surgery and is currently listed in stable condition (stable is not the same as good).

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,559904,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is no excuse for this kind of thing. The right to keep and bear arms stands side-by-side with the obligation to have two working brain cells. Forrest Gump could do it.
:banghead:

- Jim
This article has more information.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafe ... le/1041591" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


9mm malfunctions at Lakeland gun range, shoots three people

By Chandra Broadwater, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Monday, October 5, 2009


TAMPA — Michael Thourot had just pulled his hand away from the warm metal when it started spewing bullets.

Moments before, Sherri Thourot had watched her husband fire and reload the Jennings 9mm. Then he set it down for her to shoot next at the range.

That's when the handgun started firing on its own, she said, spinning around in circles, landing the Thourots and an Irish tourist in the hospital.

"Nothing like that has ever happened," said Sherri Thourot on Sunday evening from her room at Lakeland Regional Medical Center.

"We've been around guns all our lives."

It was about 10:30 a.m. Saturday when Sherri Thourot, 46, watched her husband, 47, set the gun down. The couple had decided to try out their new gun at the Saddle Creek Shooting Range in Lakeland.

They like the Polk County-owned range. It's strict and safe, the way the Thourots say they like to use their guns.

But as soon as Michael Thourot took his hand off the gun, it started firing like it was possessed, his wife said.

"I saw that he'd been hit, but I couldn't tell how bad," Sherri Thourot said. "Then I realized I had been hit. My hand was bent forward and I couldn't move my arm."

A bullet tore through the back of her right arm and exited from her biceps. Her husband had been shot in the left hand. Another man, a 29-year-old tourist visiting a friend, was hit in the shoulder and throat as he stood behind a shooting stall next to the Thourots.

All three were taken to the Lakeland hospital, where Michael Thourot and the tourist, Gary Flynn, underwent surgery.

Flynn was listed in stable condition at the hospital, while Michael Thourot was released Sunday. His wife said doctors put pins in his hand to help heal shattered bone.

She expected to leave the hospital today.

The Polk County Sheriff's Office said the gun may have been altered, leading to the malfunction. Detectives expect to know more when they take the gun apart and inspect it as they continue to investigate.

Sherri Thourot said her son, 29-year-old Jeremy, brought the 9mm back to the United States after one of his tours in Iraq with the Navy. He gave it to them this summer.

The couple cleaned the gun and made sure it was in good condition before taking it to the range, she said. They never expected to leave in an ambulance.

Before he left the hospital, her husband stopped in to see her.

"He's very shaken up over it," she said. "He's traumatized that anything like this happened to his wife."

But the freak accident won't keep her away from guns.

"I can't allow something like this to cause me to be afraid of something I've done all my life."

Re: FL: 3 shot at shooting range

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:20 pm
by MechAg94
I would not recommend anyone buy a Jennings, but I have a 380 I bought a number of years ago. It shot fine for a compact pistol and functioned very well, but it had no beavertail on the grip and cut me between the thumb and hand a little. It has been in the box for many years.

I also remember that in my first CHL class, one person showed up with a Jennings 9mm new in box, never cleaned or fired. The instructor worked with him for about 5 or 10 minutes and a bunch of oil to get it working. I most of those instructors have loaner guns these days.