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Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:06 pm
by pdubyoo
As I write this, I'm watching the Congressional vote on the Pelosi healthcare bill, and it's 213 Yea, 209 Nay. It looks as though it will carry, and will be sent to the Senate. Was all the effort at the town hall meeting worthless? :mad5

The "DC Thugs" need to be driven out on a rail really soon!!

EDIT: It passed Congress...I'm sickened!!

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:54 pm
by ExMarlboroMan
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just saw this, I'm in shock.

Are you ready? I know i am not, There are so many things.... I cannot afford to pay for healthcare for myself now, and especially if being a gun owner means it will cost more.


:rules:


When will we the people say enough is enough? :reddevil

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:03 am
by lrb111
When will we the people say enough is enough?

About the time they are being led off to prison for not buying health insurance.(5 year term)

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:07 am
by stevie_d_64
12 months and counting...

Going to be interesting to see how many of the shlups can be shown the street after today...

Rest assured my well informed friends...The sun will come up tomorrow...We will still be breathing air...

Even though this is the biggest threat to our freedom in the history of this country...We may still have the last laugh on this one...

So go out and buy a nice bottle of champagne, keep it chilled for a nice November evening next year...

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:08 am
by ExMarlboroMan
lrb111 wrote:About the time they are being led off to prison for not buying health insurance.(5 year term)
No prison for me. Promise.

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:09 am
by boomerang
ExMarlboroMan wrote:When will we the people say enough is enough? :reddevil
1776
:patriot:

1836
:txflag:

1862
:leaving

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:01 am
by chabouk
boomerang wrote:
ExMarlboroMan wrote:When will we the people say enough is enough? :reddevil
1776
:patriot:

1836
:txflag:

1862
:leaving
Wait, we don't talk about secession (from England), or secession (from Mexico), or especially secession (from the U.S.) around here. ;-)

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:44 am
by Kythas
I stayed up watching this last night and went to bed elated at the vote.

I realized 220 members of Congress just voted themselves out of a job. That put a smile on my face. :patriot:

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:47 am
by RocTrac
So, what can we do now? How can we stop this?

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:11 am
by The Annoyed Man
RocTrac wrote:So, what can we do now? How can we stop this?
Easy. DON'T become complacent. Remind everybody about how they'll be seeing people dragged off to jail in 5 years for not buying life insurance (congressional source - copy of letter proving it). Then VOTE, and do it with a vengeance.

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:18 am
by Oldgringo
The Annoyed Man wrote:
RocTrac wrote:So, what can we do now? How can we stop this?
Easy. DON'T become complacent. Remind everybody about how they'll be seeing people dragged off to jail in 5 years for not buying life insurance (congressional source - copy of letter proving it). Then VOTE, and do it with a vengeance.
Don't prisoners ge free heath care, food, clothing, etc? What would be the point of dragging someone off to jail so that they could get what they won't buy for free? But then again, who reads the fine print?

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:16 am
by RocTrac
The Annoyed Man wrote:
RocTrac wrote:So, what can we do now? How can we stop this?
Easy. DON'T become complacent. Remind everybody about how they'll be seeing people dragged off to jail in 5 years for not buying life insurance (congressional source - copy of letter proving it). Then VOTE, and do it with a vengeance.
I am not worried about being complacent, I am more interested in what can be done to stop this. I have been in contact with the office stating my concerns etc... I don't believe that a Texas Senitor is going to vote for this but it is the other states that worry me. Obama seems to think that its in the bag already. Does he know something we don't? If this does pass, will our next Pres. be able to overturn it before it is to late? How far can the States go in resisting this? I don't believe that declaring State Soverty is going to be enough to keep the Federal looters at bay.

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:47 pm
by couzin
pdubyoo wrote:Was all the effort at the town hall meeting worthless?
You don't seriously believe the meetings were so you could express your concerns and that someone would pay attention - do you? These people have been breathing the rarified air in DC so long, getting away with their graft and petty lives, living so out of touch they have forgotten why they were sent to DC in the first place, and now -- they are being led in the most liberal tax and spend agenda since Roosevelt. This time, it may just break that back of this country.

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:11 pm
by Kythas
The Annoyed Man wrote:
RocTrac wrote:So, what can we do now? How can we stop this?
Easy. DON'T become complacent. Remind everybody about how they'll be seeing people dragged off to jail in 5 years for not buying life insurance (congressional source - copy of letter proving it). Then VOTE, and do it with a vengeance.
I'm reading this letter, and I found the following statement:
The additional tax does not apply if the maintenance of acceptable coverage would result in a hardship to the individual or if the person's income is below the threshold for filing a Federal income tax return.
So let me get this straight - we're spending $1,200,000,000,000 to pay for insurance for people who can't afford to pay for it themselves. Yet, we're exempting those same people from penalties for not having to get the insurance which we're paying for them to get?

If they can't afford it now, they sure won't be able to afford it once this takes effect.

Also, it's nice how this tax penalty only applies to US citizens or legal US residents. The Dems won't ask for citizenship status when getting health care paid for by my tax dollars, but they darn sure will ask when it comes to taxing us.

Re: Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:45 pm
by longhorn_92
The Annoyed Man wrote:
RocTrac wrote:So, what can we do now? How can we stop this?
Easy. DON'T become complacent. Remind everybody about how they'll be seeing people dragged off to jail in 5 years for not buying life insurance (congressional source - copy of letter proving it). Then VOTE, and do it with a vengeance.

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

We need to have our voices heard...LOUD and CLEAR! They were elected to be our representatives... they are NOT representing us anymore! GET THEM OUT!

If we do nothing - we could easily see a TRANSFORMED America that we no longer recognize!

We can no longer see each other as a Red State or Blue State - we need to see a UNITED States... one where the Constitution is followed and not trampled on anymore.

I am seeing a Government attempting to take over Our Liberties... Our Freedoms... Our Very Lives! :nono:

It is no longer an issue of Republicans or Democrats... It's an issue of Government control of out lives or "We The People" controlling our own lives...

Wake up! Wake up Americans! Wake up!!..


A letter from Sarah Palin -


"We’ve got to hold on to hope, and we’ve got to fight hard because Congressional action tonight just put America on a path toward an unrecognizable country.

The same government leaders that got us into the mortgage business and the car business are now getting us into the health care business.

Despite Americans’ decisive message last Tuesday that they reject the troubling path this country has been taking, Speaker Pelosi has broken her own promises of transparency to ram a health “care” bill through the House of Representatives just before midnight. Why did she push the 2,000 page bill this weekend? Was she perhaps afraid to give her peers and the constituents for whom she works the chance to actually read this monstrous bill carefully, if at all? Was she concerned that Americans might really digest the details of a bill that the Wall Street Journal has called “the worst piece of post-New Deal legislation ever introduced”?

This out-of-control bureaucratic mess will be disastrous for our economy, our small businesses, and our personal liberty. It will slam businesses at a time when we are at double-digit unemployment rates – the highest we’ve seen in a quarter of a century. This massive new bureaucracy will cost us and our children money we don’t have. It will rob Americans of more of our freedom and further hamper the free market.

Make no mistake: we’re on course to have government commandeer one-sixth of our economy. The people who gave us Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac now want to run our health care. Think about that.

All of us who value the sanctity of life are grateful for the success of the pro-life majority in the House this evening in its battle against federal funding of abortion in this bill, but it’s ironic because we were promised that abortion wasn’t covered in the bill to begin with. Our healthy distrust of these government leaders made us look deeper into the bill because unfortunately we knew better than to trust what they were saying. The victory tonight to amend the bill and eliminate that federal funding for abortion was great – because abortion is not health care. Now we can only hope that Rep. Stupak’s amendment will hold in the final bill, though the Democratic leadership has already refused to promise that it won’t be scrapped later.

We had been told there were no “death panels” in the bill either. But look closely at the provision mandating bureaucratic panels that will be calling the shots regarding who will receive government health care.

Look closely at provisions addressing illegal aliens’ health care coverage too.

Those of us who love freedom and believe in open and transparent government can only be dismayed by midnight action on a Saturday. Speaker Pelosi’s promise that Americans would have 72 hours to read the final bill before the vote was just another one of the D.C. establishment’s too-common political ploys. It’s broken promises like this that turn people off to politics and leave them disillusioned about the future of their country.

But despite this late-night maneuvering, many of us were paying close attention tonight. We’ll keep paying close attention. We need to let our legislators in Washington know that they still represent us, and that the majority of Americans are not in favor of the “reform” they are pushing. After all, this is still a country “of the people, by the people, and for the people.” We will make our voices heard. It’s on to the Senate now. Our legislators can listen now, or they can hear us in 2010. It’s their choice."

- Sarah Palin