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8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:58 am
by marksiwel
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8 years in jail for graffiti charges?! without Parole!
How is this helping the community by turning this kid into a Career Criminal?
We should lock up the people we are afraid of, not the people we are MAD at.
What a waste of a judge, she's a democrat too (what do you expect?)

Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:03 am
by carlson1
Four felony charges. It sounds he needed his eight years.
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:04 am
by marksiwel
carlson1 wrote:Four felony charges. It sounds he needed his eight years.
without parole?
He could have shot at the cops at gotten less time
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:09 am
by carlson1
Well if we had more judges like this judge they would not be getting off. No bad feelings at all. I have had to work on our Church building more than once with graffiti. Maybe he can make trustee and paint the cells.
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:17 am
by marksiwel
carlson1 wrote:Well if we had more judges like this judge they would not be getting off. No bad feelings at all. I have had to work on our Church building more than once with graffiti. Maybe he can make trustee and paint the cells.
You can get as little as 2 years for 2nd degree Felonies.
This is a case of an "activist judge" trying to prove a point.
Sorry Judge, that aint why you are in the robes.
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:49 am
by chabouk
carlson1 wrote: I have had to work on our Church building more than once with graffiti.
You shouldn't have had to do that: the
tagger should have been the one out there with a wire brush, paint scraper, and power washer.
Damaging someone else's property should be handled as a tort first, and a crime second. The perpetrator in this case is headed to prison for 8 years, and the victims get nothing in return except a tax bill to pay for his incarceration. The victims still have to clean up the damage on their own, and they will have no way to seek redress since the state gets first dibs.
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:52 am
by carlson1

I probably don't have the sympathy because of having to do the work.
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:53 am
by Abraham
I have no sympathy for so-called "Taggers".
They create blight where ever they do their vandalizing.
Eight years sounds fine to me and I hope will send a message to the rest of his ilk...
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:03 am
by Oldgringo
Abraham wrote:
Eight years sounds fine to me and I hope will send a message to the rest of his ilk...

If miscreants were shown that bad things happen when they do bad things, maybe there wouldn't be so many miscreants. Besides that, prisons provide jobs to bolster our flagging economy.

Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:05 am
by DONT TREAD ON ME
He was convicted of 4 felonies. If you dont want to get punished dont break the law. Makes sense to me.
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:46 am
by Lodge2004
XtremeDuty.45 wrote:If you dont want to get punished dont break the law.
That's true, but it's also sad our society has moved to a point where if people do stupid things they wind up in prison. In my youth, I did lot's of stupid things that, if done today, would probably make me a major felon. Furtunately it was during a different time when police officers, neighbors and family were willing and able to make appropriate attitude adjustments to wayward young people. Today, we call the cops and then run inside to watch the latest Survivor episode while the system creates another career criminal.
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:11 am
by StewNTexas
This occured locally to me. This guy had been convicted of tagging four different times, released each time. Not just small tagging, but BIG things on churches, schools and businesses.
Released (small amounts of probation) each time.
How many chances do people expect for doing the the same crap over and over?
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:32 am
by MoJo
For four felony convictions eight years seems about right. Did you see the crockagator tears? I if more judges would throw the book at criminals and there were less slap of the wrist sentences there would be fewer career criminals on the street because they'd be locked away where they belong. I applaud the judge, agenda or not, for being tough. It will probably be overturned on appeal by some bleeding heart.
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:35 am
by marksiwel
MoJo wrote:For four felony convictions eight years seems about right. Did you see the crockagator tears? I if more judges would throw the book at criminals and there were less slap of the wrist sentences there would be fewer career criminals on the street because they'd be locked away where they belong. I applaud the judge, agenda or not, for being tough. It will probably be overturned on appeal by some bleeding heart.
8 years WITHOUT Parole, 8 years with the option of parole sounds better to me. Throwing a minor trouble maker into State prison isnt going to do him anygood when he gets out. 10 years from now I bet they are taking him down for REAL Crimes with his Prison homies
Re: 8 years in State Prison
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:40 am
by DONT TREAD ON ME
Last I checked if it breaks the law it is a real crime. Maybe I missed something. Either way he was convicted of 4 felonies...4!
As Stew put it he was putting this crap on Churches, Schools and Businesses not random walls in the hood but in highly visible places. Not that it matters where you put it its still a crime.
He got what he deserves.