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Out of state handgun sale - FFL required?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:15 am
by texas yankee
Hi - I purchased a pistol at a LGS here in Texas - I'm selling the gun to an individual in another state (Kansas) - do I need to go through an FFL on my end and have it sent to an FFL on his end for the transaction to be legal and not incur the wrath of the ATF guys? Or would I be legal just sending it directly to the other individual via UPS? Bill of sale recommended?
Re: Out of state handgun sale - FFL required?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:27 am
by joe817
Yes ty, you have to go through an FFL on both ends, the shipping and receiving end. And what's an LGS? I don't recognize the term off the top of my head.
Re: Out of state handgun sale - FFL required?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:36 am
by Keith B
If the Kansas FFL will accept a handgun shipped from an individual, then you can ship direct, however, most won't. It might be smart to send thorough a local FFL anyway to put the monkey on their back to make sure it is tracked.
Re: Out of state handgun sale - FFL required?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:38 am
by carlson1
Keith B wrote:If the Kansas FFL will accept a handgun shipped from an individual, then you can ship direct, however, most won't. It might be smart to send thorough a local FFL anyway to put the monkey on their back to make sure it is tracked.

plus I have found it to be less expensive.
Re: Out of state handgun sale - FFL required?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:51 am
by joe817
Thanks for the clarification you 2.

Re: Out of state handgun sale - FFL required?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:04 am
by chabouk
Yes, an FFL is only required on the receiving end. And yes, it's probably cheaper to use an FFL on both ends, because FFLs have access to cheaper shipping options (they can use regular UPS or FedEx, while a non-FFL must use Next Day Air, which will cost $50-75. Plus, non-FFLs must take the package directly to the UPS or FedEx shipping hub; you cannot ship a firearm from a shipping merchant (Staples, Pack-n-Mail, etc.) Once there, you'll probably still run into a headache trying to convince the clerk that a non-FFL can ship a firearm at all. And, they'll require a copy of the recipient's FFL, which he's probably unwilling to send you (folks have scanned and photoshopped fake addresses onto legit licenses in order to illegally receive shipments).
Even if it costs a few buck extra to ship through an FFL on your end (it probably won't), it would be worth the time and effort. Don't forget to shop around, either.
Re: Out of state handgun sale - FFL required?
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:09 pm
by texas yankee
Thanks guys!