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Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:23 pm
by 5thGenTexan
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I hope this isn't what it looks like it might be.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:38 pm
by shortysboy09
They're saying it wasn't terrorism. I sure hope it's not another incident like this. They said 2 injured and 1 unaccounted for.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:39 pm
by Bennies
The local news is saying that the pilot may have burned his house down last night. I can't believe how damaged the building is. I was living in Tampa when that teenager flew his plane that was about the same size into the bank of America building. No fire and not nearly as much damage.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:43 pm
by stroo
This doesn't sound like an accident. Given that there were Federal offices in the building, including FBI and CIA, it sure looks like an attack of some kind.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:23 pm
by old farmer
:tiphat:

This action is not within the right of an individual. You may defend your rights but you may not take the life of another individual. I pray for family of the victims. :patriot:

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:33 pm
by Bennies
The news in Houston is confirming the name of the pilot and confirming that it was no accident. They even had a note he wrote to the IRS. I would not be suprised if he had explosive or something to that nature in the plane. I have quite a bit of time in that type aircraft and cannot believe the damage. It's not impossible but wow.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:46 pm
by shortysboy09
Bennies wrote:The news in Houston is confirming the name of the pilot and confirming that it was no accident. They even had a note he wrote to the IRS. I would not be suprised if he had explosive or something to that nature in the plane. I have quite a bit of time in that type aircraft and cannot believe the damage. It's not impossible but wow.
Did they say what he was so disgruntled about?

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:47 pm
by budroux2w
Bennies wrote:The news in Houston is confirming the name of the pilot and confirming that it was no accident. They even had a note he wrote to the IRS. I would not be suprised if he had explosive or something to that nature in the plane. I have quite a bit of time in that type aircraft and cannot believe the damage. It's not impossible but wow.
How much fuel does that type hold when full? That could be a big factor plus angle of attack. I'm not fimilar with the plane or how big the building actually is, but form the pics it does look like a massive amount of damage.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:55 pm
by WildBill
shortysboy09 wrote:
Bennies wrote:The news in Houston is confirming the name of the pilot and confirming that it was no accident. They even had a note he wrote to the IRS. I would not be suprised if he had explosive or something to that nature in the plane. I have quite a bit of time in that type aircraft and cannot believe the damage. It's not impossible but wow.
Did they say what he was so disgruntled about?
Check out TheSmokingGun.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:58 pm
by PBratton
budroux2w wrote:
Bennies wrote:The news in Houston is confirming the name of the pilot and confirming that it was no accident. They even had a note he wrote to the IRS. I would not be suprised if he had explosive or something to that nature in the plane. I have quite a bit of time in that type aircraft and cannot believe the damage. It's not impossible but wow.
How much fuel does that type hold when full? That could be a big factor plus angle of attack. I'm not fimilar with the plane or how big the building actually is, but form the pics it does look like a massive amount of damage.
50 - 90 gallons is what they are reporting now...

This thing is a moving target for information right now, we'll just have to be a little patient to get some hard information on this event.

Prayers to all involved and hope the one person listed as missing is out having some fun today not listening to the news.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:08 pm
by Bennies
budroux2w wrote:
Bennies wrote:The news in Houston is confirming the name of the pilot and confirming that it was no accident. They even had a note he wrote to the IRS. I would not be suprised if he had explosive or something to that nature in the plane. I have quite a bit of time in that type aircraft and cannot believe the damage. It's not impossible but wow.
How much fuel does that type hold when full? That could be a big factor plus angle of attack. I'm not fimilar with the plane or how big the building actually is, but form the pics it does look like a massive amount of damage.
Good question it has been a few years since i have flown one so i had to look it up. If it is a normal Piper Cherokee and not something bigger like a Dakota it will hold a maximum of 50 gallons. Typical aviation fuel would be 100 low lead. some planes are converted to take 87 octane like a normal car. there is no way it had jet fuel which is what my local news channel was saying for a while. 100 LL is more volatile. to give you a size comparison a Cherokee has a gross take off weight of about 2,100 to 2,200 pounds fully loaded. that's why i find it hard to believe that it put that much hurting on that building. even hitting it going 160 to 180 knots. but like i said i guess its not impossible.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:19 pm
by TLynnHughes
According to news reports a copy of the suicide note can be found here:

http://embeddedart.com/

It's very long!

T.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:19 pm
by shortysboy09
WildBill wrote:
shortysboy09 wrote:
Bennies wrote:The news in Houston is confirming the name of the pilot and confirming that it was no accident. They even had a note he wrote to the IRS. I would not be suprised if he had explosive or something to that nature in the plane. I have quite a bit of time in that type aircraft and cannot believe the damage. It's not impossible but wow.
Did they say what he was so disgruntled about?
Check out TheSmokingGun.
Not much to say about that right there. Someone pushed him too far.

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:29 pm
by A-R
Anyone know enough about federal tax code to interpret what upset him about the 1986 amendment he mentions in letter? Something about exceptions for computer engineers?

Re: Plane hits building in Austin

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:49 pm
by WildBill
austinrealtor wrote:Anyone know enough about federal tax code to interpret what upset him about the 1986 amendment he mentions in letter? Something about exceptions for computer engineers?
I believe it has to do with treating contract workers the same a employees after they had been employed for a long time. I recall that some ex-contractors who worked for years for Microsoft trying to sue to get the same benefits and stock options as regular employees. I believe that this is why computer engineers were made exempt from this requirement.