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Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:59 am
by seamusTX
In El Paso (I think) two off-duty police officers were driving together when another vehicle rear-ended theirs. When they got out to converse with the other driver, he ran over one of the officers. The other officer shot him.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... MNO01.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Story very thin on detail.
- Jim
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:06 pm
by puma guy
seamusTX wrote:In El Paso (I think) two off-duty police officers were driving together when another vehicle rear-ended theirs. When they got out to converse with the other driver, he ran over one of the officers. The other officer shot him.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... MNO01.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Story very thin on detail.
- Jim
Where are the anti-car groups denouncing the use of automobiles as weapons?
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:08 pm
by Oldgringo
Given the news reports about life on our southern border, I have to wonder about the demeanor, dress and ethnicity of the folk involved in this incident.
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:19 pm
by puma guy
There's a little more information in this article.
http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_14805776
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:52 pm
by DONT TREAD ON ME
notice how both articles are titled with someone got shot instead of someone ran over a police officer.

Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:01 pm
by Medic218
I say kudos on a good shot, as long as it was justified of course.
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:14 pm
by M9FAN
XtremeDuty.45 wrote:notice how both articles are titled with someone got shot instead of someone ran over a police officer.

Typical.

Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:28 pm
by puma guy
XtremeDuty.45 wrote:notice how both articles are titled with someone got shot instead of someone ran over a police officer.

Very Astute!
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:48 pm
by seamusTX
It was El Paso, the officers were in plain clothes, and the incident occurred at 4 p.m. yesterday:
http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_14804397" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Jim
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:28 pm
by gigag04
puma guy wrote:XtremeDuty.45 wrote:notice how both articles are titled with someone got shot instead of someone ran over a police officer.

Very Astute!
And you guys wonder why I challenge the usage of news articles in police complaints :)
"He hit her, backed up. The male officer gave him verbal commands to stop and shot the victim when he noticed she was still down in direct line of the vehicle,"
Don't really know alot of details but I think the word "victim" may be misused here. Time will tell.
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:59 pm
by puma guy
gigag04 wrote:puma guy wrote:XtremeDuty.45 wrote:notice how both articles are titled with someone got shot instead of someone ran over a police officer.

Very Astute!
And you guys wonder why I challenge the usage of news articles in police complaints :)
"He hit her, backed up. The male officer gave him verbal commands to stop and shot the victim when he noticed she was still down in direct line of the vehicle,"
Don't really know alot of details but I think the word "victim" may be misused here. Time will tell.
I don't know if most media will ever refer to LEO's as victims no matter what the circumstances. If the actor had continued to move forward and driven over the real victim (lady LEO) I still doubt she'd be described as the victim. We don't have all the details but if what I read in the articles is proven, it's a righteous shoot! Prayers for the victim and the shooter; as well as the driver.
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:11 pm
by seamusTX
The term victim means anyone who is injured. We talk about the victim of a fall or drowning without any moral implications.
- Jim
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:37 pm
by puma guy
seamusTX wrote:The term victim means anyone who is injured. We talk about the victim of a fall or drowning without any moral implications.
- Jim
Agreed, but the word victim tends to induce/solicit sympathy and both individuals are victims. Only one was described as such in the article, which I believe is the point. No one knows the mind of the author so it's opinion as to whether it was an intentional distinction. IMHO
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:14 pm
by marksiwel
do you really think ANYONE thinks the cops are the bad guys in situations like these?
Re: Off-duty LEO shoots driver who ran over other LEO
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:49 pm
by puma guy
marksiwel wrote:do you really think ANYONE thinks the cops are the bad guys in situations like these?
I don't think of any involved as good or bad at this point. It's possible the driver moved forward again unintentionally, but the LEO reacted to stop the threat he perceived from the driver - intentional or not. There probably couldn't be a happy ending here ; the LEO gets run over again or the driver is stopped.