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City officials prepare for ruling on gun ban
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:02 pm
by joe817
"Chicago officials are already making plans about what to do when the U.S. Supreme Court issues its ruling on a challenge to the city's handgun ban. It is expected that justices will rule that law unconstitutional."
I thought this might be an interesting diversion from the other "hot topics" comments being posted in this forum. I'm not savvy enough to speculate on the consequences of this historic ruling that's coming down next month....but I sure am interested.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sectio ... le-7453330" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: City officials prepare for ruling on gun ban
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:10 pm
by joe817
For another somewhat interesting read, but for New Yourk City:
"SAF Blasts Bloomberg for 'Sham' Relaxation of Gun Regulations" :
http://www.sys-con.com/node/1400094" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Reading those 2 articles makes me appreciate more the freedom we enjoy in Texas. Let us not ever take it for granted, my friends.

Re: City officials prepare for ruling on gun ban
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:23 pm
by joe817
This is an interesting take on "how" to control the out of control violence. Ahem...yeah right. Comparing Newark, NJ to Chicago is like comparing "7Up" to "Jolt Cola" NJ is a "shall issue state:
"A Tale of Two Cities: Chicago and Newark.....
"Violent crime in this country has been declining in the past three years. Last year murder nationwide was down 10 percent. One exception to the trend is Chicago, where murder has become an epidemic. Newark, N.J., on the other hand, is turning its murder problem around. "
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/ ... 4749.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From one of the commentors:
"Re. your story tonight on Newark vs Chicago. You casually mentioned that Chicago had implemented a "handgun ban" in the context of efforts to bring violent crime under control. Chicago's handgun ban has been widely reported in other publications as contributing to the rise in violent crime in Chicago. New Jersey is a "must issue" state, meaning they allow personal ownership and concealed carry of handguns. Coincidence that where handguns are permitted for personal defense, crime goes down?"
Apparently asmith7283 has it right......as far as I'm concerned(afaic).

Re: City officials prepare for ruling on gun ban
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:35 pm
by Excaliber
I think there's some misinformation here.
NJ is NOT a must issue state - it's a "may issue" state, and almost impossible to get a carry permit in.
Check out the synopsis at
handgunlaw.us.
Not only can't a citizen get a carry permit under anything but the most exceptional circumstances, but carrying hollow point defensive rounds is a felony
for each cartridge for a civilian.
The state is only slightly behind Chicago in its philosophy on gun control.
Re: City officials prepare for ruling on gun ban
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:02 am
by joe817
Thank you EX. I stand corrected.

Re: City officials prepare for ruling on gun ban
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:22 am
by sjfcontrol
joe817 wrote:For another somewhat interesting read, but for New Yourk City:
"SAF Blasts Bloomberg for 'Sham' Relaxation of Gun Regulations" :
http://www.sys-con.com/node/1400094" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Reading those 2 articles makes me appreciate more the freedom we enjoy in Texas. Let us not ever take it for granted, my friends.

Wow! Just two paragraphs in that article say it all:
"This sounds good on the surface," Gottlieb observed, "but a little digging reveals that there is only one handgun licensing office in the entire city, in Manhattan. There is only one office for registering and licensing rifles and shotguns in the entire city, and that office is in Queens. The handgun application fee is $340, and there is a $94.25 fingerprinting fee on top of that. This fee structure screams 'for elites only' because those fees are outrageously expensive for average citizens.
"Adding insult to injury," he continued, "this is only to keep a handgun in your home or business. To get a carry permit, you still have to prove a 'need.' Mayor Bloomberg, it's not the Bill of Needs, it's the Bill of Rights."
Thank goodness I live in Texas!

Re: City officials prepare for ruling on gun ban
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:00 am
by TxKimberMan
Very good read. Thanks for posting
Reading those 2 articles makes me appreciate more the freedom we enjoy in Texas. Let us not ever take it for granted, my friends.

God Bless Texas
