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CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:30 pm
by seamusTX
Tahoma, California (western shore of Lake Tahoe) -- a man is facing misdemeanor charges of illegally taking a bear, wanton waste of a carcass, and failure to notify the fish and game department of the shooting. Each charge has a maximum penalty of one year in prison and a $1,000 fine.
The man said that the bear attacked him. The incident occurred on May 21.
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- Jim
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:04 pm
by CaptWoodrow10
I like how the woman interviewed said, "We know for a fact that bears don't attack people, and little 75-pound cubs would certainly not attack a person." I know for a fact that bears will attack a person. It certainly isn't a common occurrence, but it happens nonetheless. I'm not sure I believe the suspects story, but I'm not going to pass judgment over the internet either.
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:13 am
by Oldgringo
Get a rope! There are too many people in Kalifornia and not enough bears.
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:26 am
by Purplehood
CaptWoodrow10 wrote:I like how the woman interviewed said, "We know for a fact that bears don't attack people, and little 75-pound cubs would certainly not attack a person." I know for a fact that bears will attack a person. It certainly isn't a common occurrence, but it happens nonetheless. I'm not sure I believe the suspects story, but I'm not going to pass judgment over the internet either.
She is absolutely correct. They only steal pic-a-nic baskets.
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:55 am
by seamusTX
It appears the defendant has several problems here:
1. He apparently confessed to shooting the animal. Probably the bullet can be recovered and matched to the defendant's weapon. That seems like a pretty solid case.
2. The only evidence that the bear attacked him is his testimony.
3. The jury pool is full of touchy-feely "animal lovers" who would roast him on a spit if they could.
The prosecutor might also point out how many people are attacked by bears in California versus how many need to use deadly force to protect themselves from bear attacks.
Twelve bear attacks have been reported in 30 years in a state with a population of 30 million, not including visitors:
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/issues/bear/ ... dents.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A decent lawyer should be able to get a fine and probation.
- Jim
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:43 am
by Oldgringo
We sometimes have a "bear problem" in the little village where we've spent the last four summers up in the San Juans of Colorado. That "bear problem" is brought about by unlocked dumpsters and tourists feeding them. Sometimes, in late summer, the bears will walk through the RV park in broad daylight, presumably looking for food prior to the onset of winter.
A lot of bears have been photographed but none of us have been attacked....yet. I've got a fiver that says the tourist was feeding the cub.
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:56 am
by seamusTX
Any third party could have been feeding the bears. As we know, animals that are fed "treats" become irate when they don't get what they want. This is annoying enough with cats and small dogs. It's dangerous when the animal can tear your throat out or knock you down and stomp you.
This is one reason I put "animal lovers" in quotes. Their misguided efforts often result in dead animals.
- Jim
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:09 am
by WildBill
seamusTX wrote:It appears the defendant has several problems here:
1. He apparently confessed to shooting the animal. Probably the bullet can be recovered and matched to the defendant's weapon. That seems like a pretty solid case.
2. The only evidence that the bear attacked him is his testimony.
3. The jury pool is full of touchy-feely "animal lovers" who would roast him on a spit if they could.
The prosecutor might also point out how many people are attacked by bears in California versus how many need to use deadly force to protect themselves from bear attacks.
Twelve bear attacks have been reported in 30 years in a state with a population of 30 million, not including visitors:
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/issues/bear/ ... dents.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A decent lawyer should be able to get a fine and probation.
- Jim
His bigger problem is probably that he moved the body of the bear after killing it. This could be "tampering with evidence" or something like it.
http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/95157244.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:17 am
by seamusTX
That KOLO story was published before the charges were brought. My guess is that the prosecutor's office brought the most serious charges that they could make a case for.
It's always amusing when people who think they hold the high ground issue anonymous death threats. It's even more amusing when the authorities track them down, which is not difficult these days.
- Jim
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:19 am
by WildBill
seamusTX wrote:That KOLO story was published before the charges were brought. My guess is that the prosecutor's office brought the most serious charges that they could make a case for.
It's always amusing when people who think they hold the high ground issue anonymous death threats. It's even more amusing when the authorities track them down, which is not difficult these days.
- Jim
Here is another story published May 28th that says that the bear broke into the man's house.
http://www.ksbw.com/news/23711376/detail.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:21 am
by seamusTX
Well, that changes the situation.
- Jim
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:37 am
by Purplehood
If the bear was indeed a recidivist home-invader he pushed his luck.
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:57 pm
by Oldgringo
I wasn't there and I'm not a bear. The only witness is a tailess-biped who speaks the language of other tailess-bipeds. The dead bear can no longer speak any language.
This time of year, the mountains are lush with fruits, berries, bugs and other stuff the bears eat; consequently, there is no reason for a bear to go into town or around occupied dwellings UNLESS it was lured by food. We've had that happen in Lake City where bears were lured into garages and SHOT.
My position remains unchanged, "Get a rope". The bears were here first.
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:53 pm
by Tamie
According to the state Department of Fish and Game and the Placer County sheriff, the cub broke into a man's house last Friday night.
Investigators said the man scared the animal away, but it came back. At that point, the man shot the bear, authorities said.
Re: CA: Man facing charges for fatally shooting bear cub
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:27 pm
by Oldgringo
Tamie wrote:According to the state Department of Fish and Game and the Placer County sheriff, the cub broke into a man's house last Friday night.
Investigators said the man scared the animal away, but it came back. At that point, the man shot the bear, authorities said.
Yeah, right
