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Mexican prison guards loaned prisoners guns and vehicles so they could conduct business as usual while they were sentenced to prison. Interestingly enough the prisoners came back to prison after carrying out their hits. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/25 ... -massacre/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow & double wow! I'm speechless.

Incredibly fascinating story G.A. Thanks for sharing!

Prez Calderon was lecturing the US Congress on how the
Assault Weapons Ban should be re-enacted.

While his government is letting prisoners out of jail to
commit murders.

Tell me again - how is the US 2nd Amendment responsible
for HIS failed country's problems?

SIA

Wow, and people wonder why we don't want them over here?

It's Bush's fault.

Given the level of corruption in Mexico, I'm not surprised by the premise. The truly surprising part of this whole story is.... THEY COME BACK!!!

Prisoner 1: "Uh, ok we executed those guys, now what?"
Prisoner 2: "Well we have a car and guns, hmm...what to do?"
Prisoner 1: "Well, Gilmore Girls is on in 30 minutes, wanna go back to the cell?"
Prisoner 2: "Sure!"

Life must be good in Mexican prisons if you know the right people...

No surprise to me... It's what I've been saying for years. The amount of corruption over there has been spilling over into the border states since there was a border. It's going to get uglier folks. Keep your gun's close to you, and be ready for the influx of "refugee's" from the border. All the border states are well on their way to becoming Northern Mexico! No, I'm not racist at all. It's just that the majority of illegals coming over here are SCUM from the dredges of the Mexican society. Any decent law abiding citizen's of Mexico would seek out a way to come over legally. It's just like CHL's, we paid and trained legally for our right to carry, while criminals do not. Good people at least try to comply with the law when faced with a decision as important as crossing a border into another country, bad people do not. It's that simple.

TexasTony wrote:Given the level of corruption in Mexico, I'm not surprised by the premise. The truly surprising part of this whole story is.... THEY COME BACK!!!

Prisoner 1: "Uh, ok we executed those guys, now what?"
Prisoner 2: "Well we have a car and guns, hmm...what to do?"
Prisoner 1: "Well, Gilmore Girls is on in 30 minutes, wanna go back to the cell?"
Prisoner 2: "Sure!"

Life must be good in Mexican prisons if you know the right people...

Why not? They have a place to stay, get fed, and no one would look for the criminals in jail. I seem to remember seeing an old western with this premise, where the gang leader was running things from an easily accessible prison.

I'm wondering if they have to check the guns in and out. If so, do they leave a deposit or is it on the honor system?

NOS wrote:It's just that the majority of illegals coming over here are SCUM from the dredges of the Mexican society.

I wouldn't say they are the majority. I would say that the SCUM are the ones you should worry about more. I've lived 20 minutes from the border all my life. I've spent weeks at a time in Mexico. I have many friends who live within sight of the border. They don't worry too much about your average illegal, and I wouldn't say the the BG version is the majority. They do definitely need to be watched and dealt with though.

NOS wrote:Good people at least try to comply with the law when faced with a decision as important as crossing a border into another country, bad people do not. It's that simple.

The wide spread divisions between the haves and have-nots is more evident in Mexico than in the US. Many people are dirt poor in Mexico, and a vast majority don't have anything to do with the drug cartels. I'm not defending their decision to enter the US illegally, but I wouldn't go as far as to call them bad people. Many are simply trying to survive and provide food for their families. If they could do those things at home, they would. You cannot control where you are born. The US is the path of least resistance to that goal. Good people sometimes break laws for good reasons. Right or wrong, it happens.

Should they get carte blanche in the US.... No. Should they be criminalized for crossing illegally.... maybe. Should they be demonized... No.

I am of course talking about your non-agressive, non-drug cartel illegal...

Hogan's Heroes.

TexasTony wrote:Given the level of corruption in Mexico, I'm not surprised by the premise. The truly surprising part of this whole story is.... THEY COME BACK!!!

Prisoner 1: "Uh, ok we executed those guys, now what?"
Prisoner 2: "Well we have a car and guns, hmm...what to do?"
Prisoner 1: "Well, Gilmore Girls is on in 30 minutes, wanna go back to the cell?"
Prisoner 2: "Sure!"

Life must be good in Mexican prisons if you know the right people...

The perfect alibi- "Hey, I was in jail!"

TexasTony wrote:

NOS wrote:It's just that the majority of illegals coming over here are SCUM from the dredges of the Mexican society.

I wouldn't say they are the majority. I would say that the SCUM are the ones you should worry about more. I've lived 20 minutes from the border all my life. I've spent weeks at a time in Mexico. I have many friends who live within sight of the border. They don't worry too much about your average illegal, and I wouldn't say the the BG version is the majority. They do definitely need to be watched and dealt with though.

NOS wrote:Good people at least try to comply with the law when faced with a decision as important as crossing a border into another country, bad people do not. It's that simple.

The wide spread divisions between the haves and have-nots is more evident in Mexico than in the US. Many people are dirt poor in Mexico, and a vast majority don't have anything to do with the drug cartels. I'm not defending their decision to enter the US illegally, but I wouldn't go as far as to call them bad people. Many are simply trying to survive and provide food for their families. If they could do those things at home, they would. You cannot control where you are born. The US is the path of least resistance to that goal. Good people sometimes break laws for good reasons. Right or wrong, it happens.

Should they get carte blanche in the US.... No. Should they be criminalized for crossing illegally.... maybe. Should they be demonized... No.

I am of course talking about your non-agressive, non-drug cartel illegal...

Let me first clear up the fact that I made a generalization that was not appropriate. You are correct in saying that it is not the majority that are the SCUM. I apologize for my hasty typing and a rash statement, I am not trying to demonize anyone and am sorry it was written and taken that way.

Second, doing something Illegal doesn't make them "good" people either. If I crossed illegally into a country does that make me a bad person? Even though I might be an all around good person in my home country, to the country and it's citizens that I broke into I AM a BAD Person. This is a fact because I broke their laws. ( lol makes me think of "He was such a good neighbor, quiet, and good hearted until the killing spree)I do understand that there are decent people that are poor and simply can't afford to cross legally. My family saved for 2 generations to relocate here, they were dirt poor too. I understand that the path of least resistance is the US/Mexico border, and it attracts people looking for work, health care, and a chance to make a life for their family. But being in the US Illegally, is still Illegal. Why risk deportation back to a worse situation than when you left. Once again... saved for 2 generations to get here. Why not save every penny you can. What makes it harder for them to save money and still support a family than it was for mine. My family relocated from (at the time) war-torn Beirut and were dirt poor. I can understand hardship, but it seems that a lot of other people got to this country by doing everything they had to do to get here legally. I don't deny them the right to enter the country looking for a better life. My point is that no one made excuses to give my family a free pass to become citizens of the US. If my family had stowed away in a ship once found they would have been promptly deported. why should we make these people an exception?
I know I'm drifting away from the first intent of this post, so I'll leave it at that. That being said TexasTony, I think we do agree on some of this issue. Once again, I'm sorry to have posted something that is not fact that I hastily typed in a moment of anger from reading the posted story.

I'd like to say something in spanish, but I know that you cannot violate the ten year old daughter rule in any language, so I won't...

Maybe someone will figure out it wasn't such a great idea to have a hypocrite address us in our own house (congress) and shake their finger at us for all the problems in their own country...Maybe they won't...

This is just another example of why we need to shut off the flow, for a little while, across our border...