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I am starting to question my membership in the NRA. Harry Reid will be next!
They graded him with an "F" in 2003! Now they endorse him!

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-congr ... t-edwards/

The NRA is a gun rights organization, they don't care about anything else if it doesn't affect gun rights. Harry Reid has been good for gun rights, and as Senate Majority Leader he is in a position to help us (Which he has). I don't agree with Reid much regarding anything else, but I do like how the NRA is supporting him for helping us. I suspect that we have a similar situation regarding Chet Edwards where he is either better or equal to Bill Flores in regards to gun rights. After all Bill Flores is an unknown quantity regarding gun rights, and we can look at Chet Edwards record and see that he is a friend.

ddstuder wrote:I am starting to question my membership in the NRA. Harry Reid will be next!
They graded him with an "F" in 2003! Now they endorse him!

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-congr ... t-edwards/

If Harry Reid is defeated and the Dems keep control of the Senate, Chuck Schumer will preside over the Senate.
To the say the least he is not pro-gun.
And he WILL be directly attacking the NRA.
TraCoun

G.A. Heath wrote:The NRA is a gun rights organization, they don't care about anything else if it doesn't affect gun rights. Harry Reid has been good for gun rights, and as Senate Majority Leader he is in a position to help us (Which he has). I don't agree with Reid much regarding anything else, but I do like how the NRA is supporting him for helping us. I suspect that we have a similar situation regarding Chet Edwards where he is either better or equal to Bill Flores in regards to gun rights. After all Bill Flores is an unknown quantity regarding gun rights, and we can look at Chet Edwards record and see that he is a friend.

That is a shame that we have to decide which political issue weighs most heavily in our considerations when voting for a candidate.

Candidate X record:

Allowing left-handed smoke-shifters: Against
Restricting dingle-berries: For
Loving your Mom: For
Funding for water-colors: For

The most important issue to me is that we should be against left-handed smoke-shifters, but I am also against all of the other issues shown above. Yet the National Association for Weird Voters endorses Candidate X's stand against smoke-shifters and recommends him.

Sad.

G.A. Heath wrote:The NRA is a gun rights organization, they don't care about anything else if it doesn't affect gun rights. Harry Reid has been good for gun rights, and as Senate Majority Leader he is in a position to help us (Which he has). I don't agree with Reid much regarding anything else, but I do like how the NRA is supporting him for helping us. I suspect that we have a similar situation regarding Chet Edwards where he is either better or equal to Bill Flores in regards to gun rights. After all Bill Flores is an unknown quantity regarding gun rights, and we can look at Chet Edwards record and see that he is a friend.

Is Harry Reid really good for us? Check this out:

http://gunowners.org/is-harry-reid-pro- ... ti-gun.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

“Bill Flores is a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment, filled out a perfect NRA questionnaire that received an AQ rating, is a life member of the NRA and the Texas State Rifle Association and has already been endorsed by Gun Owners of America. Bill will never receive an F rating from the NRA as Congressman Edwards did in 2003,”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/08 ... z0wDO1x7uQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Purplehood wrote: That is a shame that we have to decide which political issue weighs most heavily in our considerations when voting for a candidate.

What is equally troubling is that too many times we find ourselves voting AGAINST a particular candidate rather than voting FOR a particular candidate in a given race.

ddstuder wrote:“Bill Flores is a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment, filled out a perfect NRA questionnaire that received an AQ rating, is a life member of the NRA and the Texas State Rifle Association and has already been endorsed by Gun Owners of America. Bill will never receive an F rating from the NRA as Congressman Edwards did in 2003,”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/08 ... z0wDO1x7uQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I couldn't of said it better. Being a NRA member I went to their web site and posted my objections. Probably too little too late. But you have to let them know how you feel.

GrayGuy wrote:

G.A. Heath wrote:The NRA is a gun rights organization, they don't care about anything else if it doesn't affect gun rights. Harry Reid has been good for gun rights, and as Senate Majority Leader he is in a position to help us (Which he has). I don't agree with Reid much regarding anything else, but I do like how the NRA is supporting him for helping us. I suspect that we have a similar situation regarding Chet Edwards where he is either better or equal to Bill Flores in regards to gun rights. After all Bill Flores is an unknown quantity regarding gun rights, and we can look at Chet Edwards record and see that he is a friend.

Is Harry Reid really good for us? Check this out:

http://gunowners.org/is-harry-reid-pro- ... ti-gun.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sorry, I don't go anywhere near GOA, too much hate and vile associated with the ANTI-NRA group.

The NRA is a part of the political class, they fear political change Our Government is at a point, where if we don't throw out the leftist we the people will become nothing more than surfs. Those co-conspirators who participated in in the takeover of our banking industry, the automobile industry, and the Health care industry. have to go. They are now in the process of shutting down our oil and gas production and about to destroy our coal industry.
What will Texas be like if these guys are allowed to continue?
The tea party movement arouse because they see what is going on, The Voters are have rebelled in Massachusetts, and elected a Republican in what was Kenndy's seat. THe people spoke out in Phoenix and gave their people 1070, but the socialist beat us in their own packed Courts.

The Democrats empower other democrats, Nevada has experimented and flirted with the leftist and it has been disastorous for them. Its time to stop the the eletist and take every one out of power, We must push for an overthrow at the house, and kick out every one who is an enemy of capitalism. A Reid led Senate will eventually leave us with an economy of an African nation where only the only ones owning guns will be the ruling tribal leaders. Anyone who supported the government takeover of our industrys needs to go.

I got my NRA renewal a couple weeks ago, the thought of them supporting the socialist we have in power really sickened me. I will support those who will ally with my enemy. The NRA may have done some good, maybe a lot of good. But supporting the likes of socialsts who wish to destroy our American traditions of capitalism is an awfull thing. Abandoning Sharron Angle to favor Reid is overlooking the larger picture. I sent the money I saved on my NRA membership to Sharron Angle's campain, and hope hope the NRA hasn't aliened her as much as they have me.

It seems to me that some of the NRA endorsements are on power held and not on principles held.

I intend to take my concerns to them as well. This isn't the time to abandon the NRA, but rather to make your thoughts clear about how the NRA can do a better job with listening to their members.

Liberty wrote:The NRA is a part of the political class, they fear political change Our Government is at a point, where if we don't throw out the leftist we the people will become nothing more than surfs. Those co-conspirators who participated in in the takeover of our banking industry, the automobile industry, and the Health care industry. have to go. They are now in the process of shutting down our oil and gas production and about to destroy our coal industry.
What will Texas be like if these guys are allowed to continue?
The tea party movement arouse because they see what is going on, The Voters are have rebelled in Massachusetts, and elected a Republican in what was Kenndy's seat. THe people spoke out in Phoenix and gave their people 1070, but the socialist beat us in their own packed Courts.

The Democrats empower other democrats, Nevada has experimented and flirted with the leftist and it has been disastorous for them. Its time to stop the the eletist and take every one out of power, We must push for an overthrow at the house, and kick out every one who is an enemy of capitalism. A Reid led Senate will eventually leave us with an economy of an African nation where only the only ones owning guns will be the ruling tribal leaders. Anyone who supported the government takeover of our industrys needs to go.

I got my NRA renewal a couple weeks ago, the thought of them supporting the socialist we have in power really sickened me. I will support those who will ally with my enemy. The NRA may have done some good, maybe a lot of good. But supporting the likes of socialsts who wish to destroy our American traditions of capitalism is an awfull thing. Abandoning Sharron Angle to favor Reid is overlooking the larger picture. I sent the money I saved on my NRA membership to Sharron Angle's campain, and hope hope the NRA hasn't aliened her as much as they have me.

That is actually a valid statement.
After all, what is the point of supporting legislators that are pro-2A if in the long-run they contribute to the reduction of the US to a 3rd-world, has-been power?

G.A. Heath wrote:The NRA is a gun rights organization, they don't care about anything else if it doesn't affect gun rights. Harry Reid has been good for gun rights, and as Senate Majority Leader he is in a position to help us (Which he has). I don't agree with Reid much regarding anything else, but I do like how the NRA is supporting him for helping us. I suspect that we have a similar situation regarding Chet Edwards where he is either better or equal to Bill Flores in regards to gun rights. After all Bill Flores is an unknown quantity regarding gun rights, and we can look at Chet Edwards record and see that he is a friend.

NRA has a difficult job in its endorsement process, but several of their latest moves have turned my stomach like never before.

While I have always consulted and given strong weight to their guidance in prior years,I feel it is now more important than ever to thoroughly research the candidates on my own and vote carefully with solid information and strong conscience.

NRA does not direct my vote, and I won't vote for those who are destroying our nation, regardless of who endorses them.

And.....I'm sad to say that as some of these endorsements come out, I'm losing a great deal of respect and faith in the NRA's support of our liberties. I'm beginning to feel that the organization is becoming so mired in the mud of politics that they're losing sight of the sun of freedom.

The second amendment can't be supported in isolation, and if the others fall, the next page of history will be too ugly to contemplate.

I'm not buying the "we are a single issue organization" excuse for support of guys like Reid. My answer to "Schumer would be worse" is: sweep all of the arrogant socialists out of our government.

Yes, I know this is a high stakes game and there will be repercussions if we lose some of those battles. But let's recognize that the enemies of liberty won't become champions of the constitution if we help them get reelected. Rather than hedging our bets with deals with the devil and failing to strongly oppose those who would turn America into a socialist nation, we need to stand for freedom in these high stakes times and do what is right at the polls.

The NRA, like all organizations, is not and cannot be all things to all people. They are a gun rights group, and that is where their interest stand. By issuing ratings and endorsements, you have to look at it from their view and what their interests are, and nothing else.

As such, the NRA's endorsement of one candidate over another is not going to determine how I vote. It is, however, going to provide me fodder as one more aspect of all the issues that affect me. If you place your determination on how you vote on just one groups endorsement (even if it is Libertarian, Republican, Democrat or Independent party endorsements) then IMO you are too narrowly focused and will miss the big picture of the person and their view and how they will handle the position. IMO that is how Obama got elected. His campaign focused on many different groups that were narrowly focused on one aspect or endorsement of him, and you now what that got us.

Keith B wrote: As such, the NRA's endorsement of one candidate over another is not going to determine how I vote.

100% agree here, Keith, but I think the concern is how much influence (both tangible and through weight of endorsement) that the NRA is wielding. Generally speaking, most of us would rather NRA be aggressive on scorecarding politicians and let us determine the rest. Who the NRA endorses doesn't affect my voting personally, but I'm more concerned about the people that vote strictly along the NRA endorsement line.

The NRA would better serve their membership's voting ability by helping them understand a politician's true values. In a hypothetical situation, a long-serving Democrat that has been a "lifelong NRA supporter" may have a value system that places their party line above their personal value system, but another politician that has never owned a gun would fight at every step to protect and defend the Constitutional protections we have. Who gets the NRA endorsement? This is why we get frustrated at some of the behaviors of the NRA-ILA - because we get the impression that they are protecting a system that works for them, rather than helping us create an electorate that they would never have to worry about fighting against.

This is one of the arguments put forward by Richard Feldman in his book "Ricochet: Confessions of a Gun Lobbyist", that the NRA is more interested in the fight than winning, because winning results in a huge loss of revenue (one can make this same argument for the GOA or any other lobbying organization, so don't take Mr. Feldman's book as some sort of scathing expose of the NRA alone). I'm not sure I agree with his entire premise, but I will say that we all have an obligation to be vigilant about endorsements like this. Remember: All endorsements smell like money