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arsonist4him wrote:I thought that the sign was wrong / old version due to letter size (not 1/2" lettering). However, does it meet the criteria of being notified by the owners of the property & thus we cannot carry on the property?

Sec. 30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder:

(1) carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another without effective consent; and

(2) received notice that:

(A) entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed handgun was forbidden; or

(B) remaining on the property with a concealed handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.

(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.

(c) In this section:

(1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).

(2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035(f).

(3) "Written communication" means:

(A) a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun"; or

(B) a sign posted on the property that:

(i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;

(ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and

(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.

dicion wrote:It IS the proper English wording though, not the old one.

pbwalker wrote:

dicion wrote:It IS the proper English wording though, not the old one.

You sure about that? I don't recall anything in my CHL class pertaining to 30.06 and "Subchapter M, Chapter 4## Government Code"

Looks to me like it IS the old sign...

dicion wrote:

pbwalker wrote:

dicion wrote:It IS the proper English wording though, not the old one.

You sure about that? I don't recall anything in my CHL class pertaining to 30.06 and "Subchapter M, Chapter 4## Government Code"

Looks to me like it IS the old sign...

It says "Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code" which is the correct reference on a current 30.06 sign.
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The old Sign would reference Revised Vernon's Statutes.

arsonist4him wrote:I'm confused by a sign. The Sportsplex @ Valley View in Dallas is a sports facility that has basketball, baseball, volleyball & other sports inside. The 30.06 sign looks wrong. The letters aren't big enough & other things missing per the Tx/DPS law. It looks like it might be an old sign. However, it has "Private Property" above the sign. This looks like it might fall under being informed by the owner rule. Do I carry or not? I didnt because after looking the CHL laws, this sign seemed to create a gray area & i didnt want to risk it.

TxSheepdog wrote:I thought you weren't allowed to carry at sporting events? Or is that just matches, and not YMCA style open courts...

a : participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs <a professional golfer>
b : having a particular profession as a permanent career <a professional soldier>
c : engaged in by persons receiving financial return <professional football>