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XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:25 pm
by hector94
Just want to get everyones opinions on the XDs safeties and carrying them chambered.
Thanks

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:52 pm
by Excaliber
hector94 wrote:Just want to get everyones opinions on the XDs safeties and carrying them chambered.
Thanks
Outstanding gun.

Striker plunger (drop) safety - gun won't fire unless trigger is fully to the rear of its movement.

Trigger safety (center must be pressed before trigger will move).

Grip safety. (gun won't fire unless held in firm firing grip with pressure against the backstrap)

Thumb safety (optional).

An unintended discharge with this gun is for sure a negligent discharge.

The biggest safety risk is between the left and right ears of the operator.

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:25 pm
by Teamless
Carry away
there is no way that a holstered (unaltered) XD Subcompact will fire a chambered round without engaging the backstrap safety AND the trigger safety at the same time.

If have been to the range, and tested the trigger without the backstrap and nothing. (I had to find out for myself before carrying)
now that is all i carry!

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:32 pm
by dicion
Yes

:thumbs2: :tiphat:

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:18 pm
by shootthesheet
I have carried a XD9 for years with no issue. I like the grip safety for reholstering. Even if I ever happen to get something in the trigger guard it won't fire because I do not depress the safety. The XD SC pistols are great, reliable and accurate.

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:52 pm
by terryg
:iagree: with all the above!

The grip safety ala 1911 is one thing that truly makes this weapon standout. All the Glock safeties plus one more passive safety. I really considered this gun heavily for my carry choice. I only went against it because it was just a bit too wide at the grip and the slide for me.

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:00 pm
by centexrandy
Excaliber wrote: Outstanding gun.

Striker plunger (drop) safety - gun won't fire unless trigger is fully to the rear of its movement.

Trigger safety (center must be pressed before trigger will move).

Grip safety. (gun won't fire unless held in firm firing grip with pressure against the backstrap)

Thumb safety (optional).

An unintended discharge with this gun is for sure a negligent discharge.

The biggest safety risk is between the left and right ears of the operator.
Optional Thumb Safety?? I have and XD9 about 6 years old and an XD40 SubCompact about 2 years old. When did they come out with an optional thumb safety? I have never seen one??

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:32 am
by TexasGal
I think that's only available on the .45 full size. The XD and XDm are dependable and accurate. My new XDm9 3.8 ate everything I put through it right out of the box. Just practice reholstering without depressing the grip safety.

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:00 am
by Lumberjack98
Excellent pistol and there are no worries carrying a round chambered. I carry an XD9 Service.
Excaliber wrote:The biggest safety risk is between the left and right ears of the operator.
Amen to that!
TexasGal wrote:Just practice reholstering without depressing the grip safety.
Why? I think that this could be dangerous.

I would argue that you should always have a proper grip on a pistol when reholstering. What you should be practicing is making sure that you finger is off the trigger and indexing the slide.

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:32 am
by Capt Roy
I would argue that you should always have a proper grip on a pistol when reholstering. What you should be practicing is making sure that you finger is off the trigger and indexing the slide.
I agree.. I have carried a XDm 9 for almost 2 years... They are excellent for the price

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:51 am
by Excaliber
For the detail oriented folks, here are some visuals of the features of the Springfield XD and XDM series pistols. Hover your mouse over the slide numbers to see the content:

XD Series

XDM Series

The thumb safety isn't shown, but it's been available as an option on the .45 model now for a couple of years.

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:05 pm
by SpringerFan
Completely safe to carry with one in the spout.

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:02 am
by TexasGal
Lumberjack98 wrote:Excellent pistol and there are no worries carrying a round chambered. I carry an XD9 Service.
Excaliber wrote:The biggest safety risk is between the left and right ears of the operator.
Amen to that!
TexasGal wrote:Just practice reholstering without depressing the grip safety.
Why? I think that this could be dangerous.

I would argue that you should always have a proper grip on a pistol when reholstering. What you should be practicing is making sure that you finger is off the trigger and indexing the slide.
Well, I sure wasn't suggesting doing anything different. :shock: I guess you thought I meant holding the grip between your thumb and forefinger or something. I just meant if the grip safety is fully depressed during reholstering and the trigger happens to catch on anything like clothing, collapsed IWB holster,etc., it can discharge just like any other gun without a thumb safety in that situation. Yeah, I know you will point out only an idiot would not take care to be sure his/her holster was clear of obstructions, but the world is full of human error . If I sound like an idiot, I'm sorry. I certainly don't claim to know as much as 95% of the people who frequent this forum. I just personally like to reholster with my grip concentrated more just below the safety as I push it into the holster. Mine is an XDm with a full size grip. I also keep my finger indexed along the slide and use a holster that doesn't collapse when empty. It does indeed all come down to the best safety is between the ears, but what is wrong with using the grip safety feature to decrease the chance of a AD when reholstering if you can still maintain a secure grip on the gun in the process?

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:01 am
by Excaliber
TexasGal wrote:
Lumberjack98 wrote:Excellent pistol and there are no worries carrying a round chambered. I carry an XD9 Service.
Excaliber wrote:The biggest safety risk is between the left and right ears of the operator.
Amen to that!
TexasGal wrote:Just practice reholstering without depressing the grip safety.
Why? I think that this could be dangerous.

I would argue that you should always have a proper grip on a pistol when reholstering. What you should be practicing is making sure that you finger is off the trigger and indexing the slide.
Well, I sure wasn't suggesting doing anything different. :shock: I guess you thought I meant holding the grip between your thumb and forefinger or something. I just meant if the grip safety is fully depressed during reholstering and the trigger happens to catch on anything like clothing, collapsed IWB holster,etc., it can discharge just like any other gun without a thumb safety in that situation. Yeah, I know you will point out only an idiot would not take care to be sure his/her holster was clear of obstructions, but the world is full of human error . If I sound like an idiot, I'm sorry. I certainly don't claim to know as much as 95% of the people who frequent this forum. I just personally like to reholster with my grip concentrated more just below the safety as I push it into the holster. Mine is an XDm with a full size grip. I also keep my finger indexed along the slide and use a holster that doesn't collapse when empty. It does indeed all come down to the best safety is between the ears, but what is wrong with using the grip safety feature to decrease the chance of a AD when reholstering if you can still maintain a secure grip on the gun in the process?

As I see it - not a thing.

Some police agencies teach officers to place the thumb on the back of the slide when reholstering to prevent the slide from moving out of battery from contact with the holster. It's neither unsafe nor a bad idea. This technique would automatically leave the grip safety engaged during the process.

Re: XD Sub Compact Safeties

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:52 am
by gringop
TexasGal wrote: but what is wrong with using the grip safety feature to decrease the chance of a AD when reholstering if you can still maintain a secure grip on the gun in the process?
Because changing your grip depending on your manipulation of the gun is a terrible habit to get into. Every class I have ever taken emphasized getting a full fighting grip on the gun while its still in the holster and keeping it until it's back in the holster.

You wouldn't use both hands to drive your car on an empty highway, then use one finger on the wheel to drive in heavy traffic. Same principle with gripping the gun, the good or bad habits we build while practicing under no stress will help or hurt us at times when life or death is riding on how we perform.

Gringop