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Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:40 pm
by WildBill
I hope that Mr. Schrader prevails in his lawsuit.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:45 pm
by 74novaman
I can understand an assault charge being a disqualification. Say, for a few years like a DWI charge takes away your license.

But 40 years ago? Obviously this guy is not the same brash 21 year old.....

Stupid, stupid law.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:05 pm
by baldeagle
74novaman wrote:I can understand an assault charge being a disqualification. Say, for a few years like a DWI charge takes away your license.

But 40 years ago? Obviously this guy is not the same brash 21 year old.....

Stupid, stupid law.
Not a stupid law. Stupid interpretation of a law.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:07 pm
by WildBill
baldeagle wrote:
74novaman wrote:I can understand an assault charge being a disqualification. Say, for a few years like a DWI charge takes away your license.

But 40 years ago? Obviously this guy is not the same brash 21 year old.....

Stupid, stupid law.
Not a stupid law. Stupid interpretation of a law.
It could be both.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:11 pm
by Beiruty
I thought only felony will bar firearms ownership

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:15 pm
by WildBill
Beiruty wrote:I thought only felony will bar firearms ownership
Usually the definition of a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:46 pm
by boba
If someone is dangerous and has been convicted of a crime, they should be locked up or deported.

Once someone has completed their sentence, I don't see any justification to deny their firearm rights, unless we also deny their rights to voting, religion, free speech, 4th/5th amendments, etc.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:03 pm
by WildBill
boba wrote:If someone is dangerous and has been convicted of a crime, they should be locked up or deported.

Once someone has completed their sentence, I don't see any justification to deny their firearm rights, unless we also deny their rights to voting, religion, free speech, 4th/5th amendments, etc.
What ever happened to the saying "They paid their debt to society"?

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:21 pm
by boba
WildBill wrote:
boba wrote:If someone is dangerous and has been convicted of a crime, they should be locked up or deported.

Once someone has completed their sentence, I don't see any justification to deny their firearm rights, unless we also deny their rights to voting, religion, free speech, 4th/5th amendments, etc.
What ever happened to the saying "They paid their debt to society"?
:iagree:

Most first timers should have their rights restored when they're released.

For violent repeat offenders who are too dangerous to let back into society, keep them locked up or revoke their citizenship (or legal residency) and kick them out of the country. They should lose the right to live in America if they have multiple, sequential violent crimes. Where they live should be their problem, not their victims' and victim's families.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:29 pm
by suthdj
Should a sex offender be allowed to be a day care teacher after he served his time?
People get so caught up in the letter of the law they forget the spirit of the law, we have to many laws that attempt to stop a certain action but mange to encompass a great deal more.




If you answered yes to the first question, think about this, a man in our community is a convicted sex offender because he reached past a teenage girl to get something out of the frig in the processes his arm grazed her breast. Again the spirit of the law was not to ruin this mans life, but yet it did.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:38 pm
by boba
suthdj wrote:Should a sex offender be allowed to be a day care teacher after he served his time?
I believe in free markets so I think that should be up to the company running the day care.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:35 am
by Bullwhip
boba wrote:
suthdj wrote:Should a sex offender be allowed to be a day care teacher after he served his time?
I believe in free markets so I think that should be up to the company running the day care.
:iagree:

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:02 am
by Purplehood
boba wrote:
WildBill wrote:
boba wrote:If someone is dangerous and has been convicted of a crime, they should be locked up or deported.

Once someone has completed their sentence, I don't see any justification to deny their firearm rights, unless we also deny their rights to voting, religion, free speech, 4th/5th amendments, etc.
What ever happened to the saying "They paid their debt to society"?
:iagree:

Most first timers should have their rights restored when they're released.

For violent repeat offenders who are too dangerous to let back into society, keep them locked up or revoke their citizenship (or legal residency) and kick them out of the country. They should lose the right to live in America if they have multiple, sequential violent crimes. Where they live should be their problem, not their victims' and victim's families.
I don't buy that. How would you like it if Outer Skinjerbia started sending all their repeat offenders to the US? How about sovereignty?

We take care of our own scumbags.

Re: Is a Misdemeanor Sufficient Reason to Deny 2A rights?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:27 pm
by KD5NRH
Purplehood wrote:I don't buy that. How would you like it if Outer Skinjerbia started sending all their repeat offenders to the US? How about sovereignty?
Nobody said anything about sending them anywhere; just kicking them out. There's a lot of international waters out there. I'm even charitable enough to give them a 6'x6' raft.