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Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:25 pm
by ELB
Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
According to two witnesses, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia took fellow Justice Elena Kagan out for a lesson in skeet shooting at his shooting club in Virginia last week....
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Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:34 pm
by G.A. Heath
Maybe he's trying to ensure the next RKBA decision is a 6-3 split by ensuring that the newest justice has a vested interest in gun rights.
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:05 pm
by TXlaw1
G.A. Heath wrote:Maybe he's trying to ensure the next RKBA decision is a 6-3 split by ensuring that the newest justice has a vested interest in gun rights.
He needs to get a real self-defense weapon into her hand and take her into a neighborhood where it is an equalizer so she can feel what the 2nd Amendment is really about - not shooting clay pigeons as a rich man's club! Maybe Justice Thomas would be a better guide to such a location and the need for real protection.
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:21 pm
by ELB
TXlaw1 wrote:G.A. Heath wrote:Maybe he's trying to ensure the next RKBA decision is a 6-3 split by ensuring that the newest justice has a vested interest in gun rights.
He needs to get a real self-defense weapon into her hand and take her into a neighborhood where it is an equalizer so she can feel what the 2nd Amendment is really about - not shooting clay pigeons as a rich man's club! Maybe Justice Thomas would be a better guide to such a location and the need for real protection.
Baby steps, baby steps...don't want to scare her off.

Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:16 am
by texas1234
TXlaw1 has a very valid point. In a lot of countries where the elitists have banned guns they still allow guns to some extent for shooting competition activities. At least she went but I can guarantee you its not changing her opinion on handguns or self defense.
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:41 am
by Purplehood
TXlaw1 wrote:G.A. Heath wrote:Maybe he's trying to ensure the next RKBA decision is a 6-3 split by ensuring that the newest justice has a vested interest in gun rights.
He needs to get a real self-defense weapon into her hand and take her into a neighborhood where it is an equalizer so she can feel what the 2nd Amendment is really about - not shooting clay pigeons as a rich man's club! Maybe Justice Thomas would be a better guide to such a location and the need for real protection.
I don't see the point. Taking a wild guess I would imagine that as a Justice they would both rate Secret Service bodyguards. As a result it is easy for people in such positions of power and used to being protected to become detached from the reality that you and I might experience.
EDIT: I was corrected on this. Apparently they don't enjoy bodyguard protection. But you get my point!

Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:48 am
by texas1234
My point was liberal nuts only want to allow for activites they deem appropriate. I can just see the conversation with Kagan after her skeet shooting opportunity. "Oh I find nothing wrong with people shooting skeet as long as handguns, self defense, and anything to do with hunting is banned, and as long as all the shotguns used for skeet shooting are registered and kept in lockers where they must me checked in and checked out on the premise of the shooting club."
That was my point, her experience there is not going to make her a 2nd Ammendment supporter they way the 2nd Ammendment was written to be.
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:45 pm
by G.A. Heath
You don't take some one out, hand them the keys and a learners permit and tell them start driving. You teach them how just a little at a time. I am willing to bet that no one on this forum's first experience with a firearm was in a self defense situation so why would you wish such a thing on someone else no matter how apposed they are to your Second Amendment rights?
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:22 pm
by KD5NRH
G.A. Heath wrote:You don't take some one out, hand them the keys and a learners permit and tell them start driving.
Exactly; she's got to get a little practice before her quail hunt with Cheney.
Besides, is there really any strong evidence that it was Kagan and not Mike Myers?
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:32 pm
by gigag04
Purplehood wrote:TXlaw1 wrote:G.A. Heath wrote:Maybe he's trying to ensure the next RKBA decision is a 6-3 split by ensuring that the newest justice has a vested interest in gun rights.
He needs to get a real self-defense weapon into her hand and take her into a neighborhood where it is an equalizer so she can feel what the 2nd Amendment is really about - not shooting clay pigeons as a rich man's club! Maybe Justice Thomas would be a better guide to such a location and the need for real protection.
I don't see the point. Taking a wild guess I would imagine that as a Justice they would both rate Secret Service bodyguards. As a result it is easy for people in such positions of power and used to being protected to become detached from the reality that you and I might experience.
EDIT: I was corrected on this. Apparently they don't enjoy bodyguard protection. But you get my point!

Correct - that job falls to USMS Judicial Protection branch.
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Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:56 pm
by mgood
ELB wrote:TXlaw1 wrote:G.A. Heath wrote:Maybe he's trying to ensure the next RKBA decision is a 6-3 split by ensuring that the newest justice has a vested interest in gun rights.
He needs to get a real self-defense weapon into her hand and take her into a neighborhood where it is an equalizer so she can feel what the 2nd Amendment is really about - not shooting clay pigeons as a rich man's club! Maybe Justice Thomas would be a better guide to such a location and the need for real protection.
Baby steps, baby steps...don't want to scare her off.

Exactly what I was thinking. Get a gun into her hands, any gun. Let her see that it is not evil.
For all I know, just taking her shooting may be the single greatest thing for us RKBA supporters in the last hundred years. . . . Or it may have been a complete waste of time and ammo. Who knows? But it looks like he's trying.
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:38 pm
by Bullwhip
Should take her to a cowboy action match.
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:46 pm
by nitrogen
texas1234 wrote:TXlaw1 has a very valid point. In a lot of countries where the elitists have banned guns they still allow guns to some extent for shooting competition activities. At least she went but I can guarantee you its not changing her opinion on handguns or self defense.
Please tell me when you met her, and how long you've known her for! I'd love to get more insights into our newest justice.
EDIT: I get really perturbed when I see people thinking this way. I am proof it's incorrect, and I have myself proven it incorrect 22 times since January this year.
Re: Scalia takes Kagan to gun range, sources say
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:15 pm
by JasonblkZ06
They should have invited Cheney.