TexasCHLforum.com

Just went out and bought me a Glock 27. Few months back got me and FNX 9mm and took my class now I've been bitten and needed a "fix". I had to have another one (handgun) that is. Now I have just one worry. The FNX has a flick lever type safety and it is also a sa/da type pistol. That is comforting to me to know it isn't going to be real easy to mistakenly fire or discharge the thing. My concern i have is this with the it has the lever thing on the trigger and not an actual switch type safety. How hard is it to mistakenly hit that and the trigger and misfire the gun. ie accidental discharge while holstering the gun. I know not to put finger on trigger until ready to shoot but I'm asking a out the thing getting accidentally pushed. Does this make sense ? I'm to nervous right now to even put a round in the chamber while carrying and that defeats the purpose of trying to be ready for the unexpected.

I had the same concern with an XD40 which has the same (safety). That lasted about a day.

You will really have to be extremely conscious of the fact that
you have a hot gun and the "finger off the trigger" rule is paramount.
This also applies to re-holstering.

Give it some time and you should become more comfortable and hopefully you'll keep
one in the pipe, which IMO is imperative when carrying a gun for self defense.

As they say..The best safety is that gray squishy thing between your ears.

Having a decently fast draw is important. Being able to reholster should be nice and slow.

As long as you have a quality holster that covers the trigger and you're very careful to make sure the holster is clear when you reholster (no clothes wedging themselves in there) you should be just fine.

Kevin_S wrote:Just went out and bought me a Glock 27. Few months back got me and FNX 9mm and took my class now I've been bitten and needed a "fix". I had to have another one (handgun) that is. Now I have just one worry. The FNX has a flick lever type safety and it is also a sa/da type pistol. That is comforting to me to know it isn't going to be real easy to mistakenly fire or discharge the thing. My concern i have is this with the it has the lever thing on the trigger and not an actual switch type safety. How hard is it to mistakenly hit that and the trigger and misfire the gun. ie accidental discharge while holstering the gun. I know not to put finger on trigger until ready to shoot but I'm asking a out the thing getting accidentally pushed. Does this make sense ? I'm to nervous right now to even put a round in the chamber while carrying and that defeats the purpose of trying to be ready for the unexpected.

I carry a Glock, I've owned Glocks since the 1980s.
Here's the thing: It isn't just "keep finger off trigger"
It's "keep finger out of the trigger guard"
"keep everything out of the trigger guard" (chapstick, lipstick, keys, whatever)

But, relax, ...
Remember revolvers?
They had fewer safeties than a Glock.
No one kept all the bullets unchambered except Barney Fife.
He kept his cartridge in his pocket.

"keep finger out of the trigger guard"
I rest my index finger on the slide just above that detent-Takedown lever area, until I want it to go bang.
(If you later get an internal laser, that takedown lever is the laser's ON switch)

Only one other caution:
QUADRUPLE check it's empty before you think about pulling the trigger to disassemble, then check it again, then think, then check it again ... (Pasadena Police Dept had a little piece of concrete missing in the floor of the old building, after they switched from revolvers to Glocks, I won't say how that happened, but it wasn't me thank goodness.

You'll be fine if you use a good holster and common sense.

Yeah, I once considered a New York Trigger and heavy trigger modifications, no need for it imho.
use a good holster, watch where muzzle is pointed, follow safe handling rules.

USA1 wrote: As they say..The best safety is that gray squishy thing between your ears.

Don't get me wrong, as I own Glocks too, and they do require some extra caution. But, one day I'm going to find out who "they" are, because I strongly disagree with them. If the above quote were true, they would have to unequivocally state that "they" had never:

1. Tripped
2. Cut themselves
3. Burned themselves
4. Caught themselves exceeding the speed limit when they didn't intend to
5. Shocked themselves
6. Hit their finger with a hammer
7. Added, subtracted, or multiplied incorrectly
8. Spilled a drink, or dropped a plate
9. Had a minor or major accident of any kind, due to their own fault
10. etc., etc., etc.

Unintentional inattention is a human trait, and no amount of brain power will prevent it. I'm not saying that with weapons you don't need to be extra careful regardless of safeties, but safeties are things that work when "you" (gray matter) fail, which we all do on a regular basis. End of rant

G26ster wrote:

USA1 wrote: As they say..The best safety is that gray squishy thing between your ears.

Don't get me wrong, as I own Glocks too, and they do require some extra caution. But, one day I'm going to find out who "they" are, because I strongly disagree with them. If the above quote were true, they would have to unequivocally state that "they" had never:

1. Tripped
2. Cut themselves
3. Burned themselves
4. Caught themselves exceeding the speed limit when they didn't intend to
5. Shocked themselves
6. Hit their finger with a hammer
7. Added, subtracted, or multiplied incorrectly
8. Spilled a drink, or dropped a plate
9. Had a minor or major accident of any kind, due to their own fault
10. etc., etc., etc.

Unintentional inattention is a human trait, and no amount of brain power will prevent it. I'm not saying that with weapons you don't need to be extra careful regardless of safeties, but safeties are things that work when "you" (gray matter) fail, which we all do on a regular basis. End of rant

OK, but some of us try harder than others.

G26ster wrote:Unintentional inattention is a human trait, and no amount of brain power will prevent it. I'm not saying that with weapons you don't need to be extra careful regardless of safeties, but safeties are things that work when "you" (gray matter) fail, which we all do on a regular basis. End of rant

I will agree with you that shooter will eventually become careless, overly-comfortable/confident, but there are 2 exceptions that cannot be neglected: only point gun toward what you intend to shoot, and finger out of the trigger guard. These rules do not fall under the category of something that gets neglected every once in a while and, I believe, are analogous to not forgetting the baby, and looking both ways before crossing.

Gun safeties are a bad deal all around because if they are relied to work and don't you're screwed, and if they work when you are in a self defence situation, you're screwed. Think about it realistically-You're not going to point the gun in an unsafe direction and pull the trigger when the safety is engaged, and you're not going to allow an untrustworthy person to handle the gun because the safety is engaged; they're just one more thing to worry about when your life is on the line (decockers are nice thought ).

Embalmo

If you are unconfortable carrying glock type pistols, then carry sa/da pistols. Tons of options and you can decock safely.

Having a decently fast draw is important. Being able to reholster should be nice and slow.

As long as you have a quality holster that covers the trigger and you're very careful to make sure the holster is clear when you reholster (no clothes wedging themselves in there) you should be just fine.

Totally agreed.

Now with that said... If you are that curious about the trigger go lock yourself away from the world unload your Glock and put your bullets in the other room. Check that is is unloaded, check it again, then check it one more time.

Now dry fire it a couple hundred times. Practice the complete cycle of draw and dry fire and get used to the trigger. Try stuffing back in the holster with your finger on the trigger. Try and see how hard it is to snag that little trigger safety.

And you will find that although it is not impossible, it is quite difficult to do. Learn to respect it and you will be fine. Learn to keep your finger out of the trigger guard altogether.

And yes I too have a Glock 27. I really, really like it!!

If you explore the world of Glock accessories you will eventually try the Pearce grip extensions. They come in +0, +1, and +2. But I eventually settled in on these:

http://www.concealablecontrol.com/about.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The don't add any capacity but I find they really help me index my grip as I draw. I swear by them.

Best of luck!!

I am also a G27 owner, and also had your concerns when I first bought mine. I was familiar with 1911 pistols, wheelguns and DA autos, with and without decockers.

I carried my Glock around the property for a week before I carried a round in the chamber. Now I was raised by my dad and trained by the Navy not to put my finger in the trigger guard until I was ready to shoot. My unfamiliarity with Glock type weapons caused me to be extra cautious when I first started carrying one. I continue to give the Glock a little extra ....Caution when I handle it.

I also examined my holsters to figure out what to watch for when reholstering. I found that with the leather belt slide I use sometimes to be sure that the thumb break straps were out of the way when I went to reholster.

I observe all the rules about not pointing at anything I don't intend to destroy, clear, check clear, check clear again, so on so forth. I leave my weapon in the holster unless maintenance is needed, or I am shooting, except when I get ready for bed, I unholster and set it on the bedside table, as I am the only one here.

Imagine how I felt the first morning when I went to holster my Glock with a round in the chamber and looked down and one of my goofy labs had her head right below my holster. Enter a new rule; when removing or replacing weapon in holster, place right side of body over a couch, or anything that keeps a loved one from getting a body part in the path of an ND.

In my opinion A Glock is as safe as anything, as long as one is safe him or her self. There are manual safeties available for the Glock, one is a traditional type safety, I believe it requires a gunsmith for installation; the other is a crossbar type safety that is relatively cheap and replaces the trigger. It physically blocks the little lever on the trigger that is essentially the first of the Glocks three safeties.

On a side note; Yesterday a guy I served in the Navy with posted a picture of a new Ruger auto he just bought on his Facebook page. In the Picture he had his finger on the trigger. I commented on his photo "Finger out of the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot gangsta". He commented back that as a duty Gunners Mate you would think that he would practice what he preached. Goes to show you..........................

Thanks for all the tips. I am going to get the extensions for the mags in a couple of days (I used alot of my budget on the Glock) lol. Never thought about the practicing drawing And reholstering thing. I do need to go shoot some rounds and get the actual feel of how the trigger pull is. I agree with all the safe handling issues you all said and practice those every time I handle or think about handling my guns. Thanks again for the help and all the knowledge y'all have shared.

I use Pearce model PG-39 extensions.
They are +2 for .40 and +3 for 9mm.
They are better than the Glock Factory extensions.

USA1 wrote:

G26ster wrote:

USA1 wrote: As they say..The best safety is that gray squishy thing between your ears.

Don't get me wrong, as I own Glocks too, and they do require some extra caution. But, one day I'm going to find out who "they" are, because I strongly disagree with them. If the above quote were true, they would have to unequivocally state that "they" had never:

1. Tripped
2. Cut themselves
3. Burned themselves
4. Caught themselves exceeding the speed limit when they didn't intend to
5. Shocked themselves
6. Hit their finger with a hammer
7. Added, subtracted, or multiplied incorrectly
8. Spilled a drink, or dropped a plate
9. Had a minor or major accident of any kind, due to their own fault
10. etc., etc., etc.

Unintentional inattention is a human trait, and no amount of brain power will prevent it. I'm not saying that with weapons you don't need to be extra careful regardless of safeties, but safeties are things that work when "you" (gray matter) fail, which we all do on a regular basis. End of rant

OK, but some of us try harder than others.

And those of us who do, carry 1911s.

Stir, stir, stir...