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Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:14 pm
by wharvey
I asked this a few days ago on the wrong forum so I'll rephrase and simplify my question. I hope this is the correct place to ask.

I'll be moving to Texas soon and as I understand it I have 60 days to get my Texas DL. I presently have a license to carry in my present state - Indiana. I know this is honored under reciprocity in Texas.

Now for the question. Once I have a Texas DL, will Texas still honor my Indiana license until I can receive a Texas CHL?

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:18 pm
by Teamless
If Indiana and Texas already have reciprocity, then you will still have it when you move to Texas.
However, you will need to check with Indiana to see what the law is on having a "resident" license, and not remaining a resident of the state.

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:31 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
As teamless said, you're in good shape on the Texas side of the deal as long as your Indiana license is still valid. However, if there is something in Indiana law that suspends or revokes your Indiana license after you leave the state or get an address and/or DL in Texas, then you won't be able to carry in Texas without a Texas CHL.

Chas.

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:48 pm
by Bart
If you do everything necessary to keep your Indiana license current (change address, etc.) and Indiana converts it to a non-resident license, then Texas should honor an Indiana non-resident license the same as an Indiana resident license.

However, I think Indiana restricts non-resident licenses to people with a business or vacation home in Indiana. If that's right, then your Indiana license will become invalid when you become a Texas resident, unless you fit one of those conditions. If your Indiana license isn't valid in Indiana, it's not valid in Texas either.

ianal

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:57 pm
by wharvey
Thanks for the replies. I hadn't thought of the possibility that my Indiana license would become invalid. Renewal isn't and issue since it is a life time answer but don't know about the out of state residence. I do know they do not issue a non-residence but don't know about former residence. I'll have to check that out.

Either way I'll still be happy to move back to Texas.

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:07 pm
by cbr600
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Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:12 pm
by i8godzilla
You can get a PA or FL license before your current one becomes invalid.

PA: http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/lice ... cation.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FL: http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just make sure that you get your TX CHL once you get here.

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:36 am
by wharvey
My concern is that some states do not honor non-resident licenses for their residents. For example. A Texas license is valid in Indiana and Kentucky. Say I don't have an Indiana license. The Texas license would be valid in Kentucky but not Indiana since I am a residence of Indiana.

I don't know if that is the case but I've read that is the way it is with some states. Indiana doesn't issue non-resident license and says so for those wanting to apply. I've not been able to find if the license is no longer valid if I move from the state and I'm no longer a resident. I'll need to call the state and ask if leaving the state invalidates my license.

I also need to find out if Texas will honor a license from another state if the person holding the license is a Texas resident, which is what my question really asks.

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:00 am
by Teamless
wharvey wrote:I also need to find out if Texas will honor a license from another state if the person holding the license is a Texas resident, which is what my question really asks.
Yes, Texas will honor a license from another state, even if the person is a resident in Texas.
Case in point, UTAH Licenses were all over the news for Texas residents to get, as they were easier to get, cheaper and less class time.
Downside, you learn NOTHING of Texas Law. But it is honored.
But what was asked earlier, by another poster, if Indiana says yours is not valid once you move, then Texas will also not honor it, as it has to be valid in your state to be valid in our state

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:11 pm
by Crossfire
Teamless wrote:Yes, Texas will honor a license from another state, even if the person is a resident in Texas.
Case in point, UTAH Licenses were all over the news for Texas residents to get, as they were easier to get, cheaper and less class time.
Downside, you learn NOTHING of Texas Law. But it is honored.
To be fair and accurate - Utah Instructors are not required to teach Texas law in their Texas non-resident license classes, but the Utah BCI does encourage instructors to cover the laws of the state where they are teaching. Responsible instructors do just that.

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:25 pm
by Keith B
As Charles stated, your Indiana license will be valid in Texas as long as it is valid in Indiana. As you stated, Indiana does not issue a non-resident license, so I am going to go out on a limb and say as soon as you change your legal address of residence to Texas, that your Indiana license will no longer be valid, and in turn no longer honored by Texas. You need to double check with the state of Indiana to make sure.

SO, with that said, if indeed it is invalid, you could possibly apply for a non-resident license from another state like Florida or Pennsylvania to hold you between the time your Indiana license is no longer valid and you get a Texas license, or you could just use the Florida or other non-resident license that is valid here. I would suggest getting a Texas CHL ASAP though as a resident license gives you some exemptions you don't get with a non-resident.

Here is a great resource for info on licenses from other states http://www.handgunlaw.us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Good luck!

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:15 pm
by phrogg
Like Keith is saying, I would just apply for a PA or FL license and then you are covered while you then get your stuff in order to get your CHL license. No matter where you have a license from and how valid it is, you should always help maintain your legislature supporting your 2A rights by getting a license in the state you are now a resident of. So get that TX CHL class lined up but keep covered during the time it takes to get r done.

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:26 pm
by Pawpaw
The easiest way to get the PA license is right here:

http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/lice ... cation.asp

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:40 pm
by Bullwhip
It don't say anything about changing your address after you move out of state. It says they can't issue one to a non resident though.

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/t ... 7/ch2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(f) The superintendent may not issue a lifetime qualified license or a lifetime unlimited license to a person who is a resident of another state. The superintendent may issue a four (4) year qualified license or a four (4) year unlimited license to a person who is a resident of another state and who has a regular place of business or employment in Indiana as described in section 3(a)(3) of this chapter.

Re: Reciprocity for Texas residents

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:02 pm
by boba
Bullwhip wrote:It don't say anything about changing your address after you move out of state. It says they can't issue one to a non resident though.

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/t ... 7/ch2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(f) The superintendent may not issue a lifetime qualified license or a lifetime unlimited license to a person who is a resident of another state. The superintendent may issue a four (4) year qualified license or a four (4) year unlimited license to a person who is a resident of another state and who has a regular place of business or employment in Indiana as described in section 3(a)(3) of this chapter.
Keep reading.

(i) If a person who holds a valid license to carry a handgun issued under this chapter:
(1) changes the person's name;
(2) changes the person's address; or
(3) experiences a change, including an arrest or a conviction, that may affect the person's status as a proper person (as defined in IC 35-47-1-7) or otherwise disqualify the person from holding a license;
the person shall, not later than thirty (30) days after the date of a change described under subdivision (3), and not later than sixty (60) days after the date of the change described under subdivision (1) or (2), notify the superintendent, in writing, of the event described under subdivision (3) or, in the case of a change under subdivision (1) or (2), the person's new name or new address.