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Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:48 am
by lrb111
Guns Magazine article. link only, due to possible copyright infringe.

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Re: Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:09 am
by baldeagle
At the end of the article, the writer suggests that state attorneys general "must direct all sworn personnel to be informed about the law". In a utopian world, that might happen. Here in the US, where many, many attorneys are liberals who believe in gun control, it's unlikely to happen. For those brave souls who want to push the issue of our rights I say, more power to you. But don't come crying about being arrested when the system is obviously stacked against you. If it gets you killed, it will be small compensation to your family and friends that you were exercising your rights.

Wiser heads might say, let's get some decent attorneys general elected first, and then push the issue.

Re: Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:17 am
by Excaliber
baldeagle wrote:At the end of the article, the writer suggests that state attorneys general "must direct all sworn personnel to be informed about the law". In a utopian world, that might happen. Here in the US, where many, many attorneys are liberals who believe in gun control, it's unlikely to happen. For those brave souls who want to push the issue of our rights I say, more power to you. But don't come crying about being arrested when the system is obviously stacked against you. If it gets you killed, it will be small compensation to your family and friends that you were exercising your rights.

Wiser heads might say, let's get some decent attorneys general elected first, and then push the issue.
This is another reminder that elections have consequences - both good and bad.

Re: Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:57 pm
by suthdj
Where I work we have procedures for almost everything on the production lines that spell out how to do your job. It has been said by some when asked why they did not follow procedure.....Their response...... "the procedure didn't say I can't do it." This seems to be the thought process of some in our LE departments around the country.These kind of excuses need to be removed and made punishable. The departments need to start being held financially liable for the loss the the citizen when these excuses are used.

Re: Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:55 pm
by Dragonfighter
baldeagle wrote:<SNIP> But don't come crying about being arrested when the system is obviously stacked against you. If it gets you killed, it will be small compensation to your family and friends that you were exercising your rights.<SNIP>
As is the case when one dies prosecuting a foreign war..."doing there duty" is little comfort to the wives and children left behind. But I am glad there are those who will prosecute those wars. I am glad there are those willing to risk financial ruin, injustice and potential death to preserve our RKBA.

Re: Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:20 pm
by C-dub
suthdj wrote:Where I work we have procedures for almost everything on the production lines that spell out how to do your job. It has been said by some when asked why they did not follow procedure.....Their response...... "the procedure didn't say I can't do it." This seems to be the thought process of some in our LE departments around the country.These kind of excuses need to be removed and made punishable. The departments need to start being held financially liable for the loss the the citizen when these excuses are used.
My company/industry is very much like this. We, however, have somewhat the opposite problem with procedures. Many times someone will say they could not do something because the procedure did not specifically say TO DO IT. They have been so conditioned to following the procedure exactly that if there is a mistake many will go ahead and knowingly make the mistake because they are afraid to to do otherwise. Sometimes this is okay, and sometimes I just wish they would call and ask someone with the authority to approve the deviation until it get's fixed.

Re: Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:55 pm
by rm9792
If it is like my company then the higher ups are too scared to make a decision against corp policy and that task cant be done.

Re: Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:31 pm
by PATHFINDER
This has been my concern ever since I became a supporter of the movement to restore RESPECT FOR for our right to bear arms.

"Extremism always brings about its own destruction" - sorry can't cite the original source.

The tendancy to push-back rather "abrasively" against nearly a century of progressive suppression of the right to bear arms is understandable.

HOWEVER - SUCCESSFUL courtship requires a degree of smoothness, patience, RESPECT, appreciation for the experience, and circumstances of the "other"- in the case of the "OC" movement this "other" is SOCIAL perceptions ,expectations, perhaps some naivete, a degree of ignorance of the law(even among the ranks of law enforcement), and some thought given to MARKETING OF IDEAS.

MARKETING-MARKETING-MARKETING . If you wish to SELL your product.

Re: Open Carry Still Dangerous — Even Where David Codrea

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:59 pm
by Gyrogearhead
Sometimes it's good and necessary to stand up for one's Rights. However I can't help but remember a headstone I saw way way back. The inscription went something like this:

Here lies Will O'Day
who died defending his right of way.
His right was clear and his way was strong
but he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong!

I always remember this when someone suggests I need to go blaze a trail.

Gerry