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i have been looking somewhat at an AR 15 rifle thats not high dollar but still functions was and is well built... I have read that Bushmaster, Rock River arms, and Stag make a decent rifle... correct me if im wrong and i don't want to spend over $850(if that wont get a decent rifle ill go with the mini haha)... im also looking at the Ruger mini 14 tactical i see it priced at around $650-$700... any suggestions? gonna use it for plinking/ hunting

im not a rifle expert so please don't shred me haha

This might help with the plinking:

S&W M&P

Holland GunWorks, through The Arms Room.

DPMS Oracle

The Mini's groups will dance around the AR15's groups all day. For $200 more, you get MUCH more rifle out of the AR15.

You really can't go wrong when it comes to choosing brands in the AR15 industry. There's the best, and then there's everyone else.

There are only 2 brands that I would avoid and those are Olympic and, ironically, Armalite. - this is just my personal opinion.

Top Tier Brands:
Colt
Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM)
Fabrique National (FN)
Noveske
Lewis Machine & Tool (LMT)


My first AR15 was a Stag - it worked very well. My latest AR is a BCM! Prices should be very competitive right now. There is a huge supply due to the over manufacturing during the Obama scare.

I would suggest you check the Firearms section of this forum or check http://www.texasguntrader.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for some excellent deals on slightly used rifles.

mrvmax wrote:DPMS Oracle

Did you mean Sportical?

I got one of these from CMMG and have been very happy with it:

http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/item/W.A ... ch-M4-1402" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's about the best deal out there and even though it's called "bargain bin," mine looked like it was new out of the box. Just need to add a rear sight and a magazine or two. Search online and nobody has anything but good things to say about this deal.

Brian

If you're in the Central Texas area try this:

http://www.gtdist.com/ProductDetail.asp ... =SW-311003" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The shooter chart/target in post #2 pretty much says it all. That's funny.

In the sub $850 category I like S&W as well.

gigag04 wrote:S&W M&P

Yup, M&P lots of bang for the buck!

McKnife wrote:The Mini's groups will dance around the AR15's groups all day. For $200 more, you get MUCH more rifle out of the AR15.

You really can't go wrong when it comes to choosing brands in the AR15 industry. There's the best, and then there's everyone else.

There are only 2 brands that I would avoid and those are Olympic and, ironically, Armalite. - this is just my personal opinion.

Top Tier Brands:
Colt
Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM)
Fabrique National (FN)
Noveske
Lewis Machine & Tool (LMT)


My first AR15 was a Stag - it worked very well. My latest AR is a BCM! Prices should be very competitive right now. There is a huge supply due to the over manufacturing during the Obama scare.

I would suggest you check the Firearms section of this forum or check http://www.texasguntrader.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for some excellent deals on slightly used rifles.

Why avoid armalte ....other then prices?

Sidro wrote:

mrvmax wrote:DPMS Oracle

Did you mean Sportical?

Nope, the Oracle
http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=57" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Why avoid armalte ....other then prices?

*All information is what I've read and heard from others*

Armalite apparently had some quality control issues in their AR15's. Many owners reported major accuracy and cycling issues. This included their AR10's. New production would probably be okay.


Here is an online spreadsheet that users have put together that review most of a rifle's standard features by Brand.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... utput=html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^This is why I buy BCM.