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I know the legality of carrying at another person's home is fine, but I'm more wanting a discussion of when (if any time) you won't carry into another person's home (this is assuming no verbal or written notice has been given, no 30.06, etc.).

Do you carry without question? Would/do you carry if you know they are anti-gun? If They are relatives, etc.?

Personally, I have just gotten my CHL, but I can't think of a situation I wouldn't carry if legally allowed in another person's home unless I knew they specifically didn't wish me to, but you may have a situation I have not thought about.

put it on, cover it up and carry.
it doesn't matter to me if the person is pro or anti-gun.
doesn't matter what their other beliefs are.
If i conceal it, it does not affect them.

If there is some kind of party and I know I will be drinking I won't even have it in the car because of the drive home.

If there will be some game or activity that would require exposing the weapon. However, I may still carry and just opt to secure the weapon in the car prior whatever activity starting in this case.

Obviously no carry if I plan to drink any alcohol as already mentioned.

Others disagree, but personally I don't carry in someone's home if I know that they are against guns. I may well choose not to go in their house at all, but on my personal scale, their right to set the rules for their home trumps my right to bring something they disagree with IF I CHOOSE TO BE THERE. I have a different standard for business owners and will carry into a business that is anti-gun (assuming they are not posted with a valid 30.06 or 51% sign). I just think that people should have near complete control of what goes on in their home, within reason. However, if someone opens a business and invites the general public, then they should be a little more accomodating of other people's rights. Like I said, alot of people here disagree with this position. That's part of the beauty of a discussion forum.

No offense meant Katygunnut, but even a person has control (or thinks he has control) of his/her home, does not mean bad things still won't happen there.
Much like a store with a security guard never gets robbed.... oops, that does happen.
I believe you should do as you please, as it is your choice, and I agree most people "think" they have control of their house, but sometimes bad things happen, which is why I carry on a daily basis, whenever legally possible.

Teamless wrote:No offense meant Katygunnut, but even a person has control (or thinks he has control) of his/her home, does not mean bad things still won't happen there.
Much like a store with a security guard never gets robbed.... oops, that does happen.
I believe you should do as you please, as it is your choice, and I agree most people "think" they have control of their house, but sometimes bad things happen, which is why I carry on a daily basis, whenever legally possible.

To be clear, I'm not implying that its a good idea to ban weapons from one's home. I'm just saying that some people have this belief (obviously not me, or I wouldn't be on this forum). However misguided the notion, I do respect people's right to set the rules for their home. I can always choose not to be there if I disagree with their beliefs.

I fell the same way pretty much Katygunnut. I almost always know when I could end up inside someones house. And for most of my closer friends they are aware I carry. With some people its an unsaid non issue. Others I prefer to ask if they would like me to leave it in the car when I'm inside.

And teamless everything you said is very true. However it's not the point I think katy was going for, or how I feel. I carry EVERYWHERE for the most part, and you can never expect nothing to happen. However, I feel the same way about peoples houses. It's not about risk vs reward, or security options, its about respect. I would prefer the same if someone were to considering bringing a gun in my house. I will have little to no problem, but would like it mentioned if it may be a regular thing.

But of course anytime you don't have it, could be the time you need it. I have only had one person flat out give me a ditry look and tell me not to ever bring it. I don't really go there anymore though, so that solves that.

I don't associate with anti-gun people

gigag04 wrote:I don't associate with anti-gun people

And if I'm visiting someone's home who turns out to be anti-gun, I'll be carrying concealed until they inform me directly - without my asking and not in general conversation - that guns are not allowed in their house and I can either leave or put it in my vehicle. Then, and only then, would I not carry in their home by exercising one of those two choices. Wherever and whenever legal, I choose to protect my right to be safe in my person and the lives of my loved ones - even in the home of someone who does not care about their right and thus doesn't care about my safety in their environment.

TXlaw1 wrote:

gigag04 wrote:I don't associate with anti-gun people

And if I'm visiting someone's home who turns out to be anti-gun, I'll be carrying concealed until they inform me directly - without my asking and not in general conversation - that guns are not allowed in their house and I can either leave or put it in my vehicle. Then, and only then, would I not carry in their home by exercising one of those two choices. Wherever and whenever legal, I choose to protect my right to be safe in my person and the lives of my loved ones - even in the home of someone who does not care about their right and thus doesn't care about my safety in their environment.

I'll have to agree with gigag04 and TXlaw1 on this issue. I have no duty under Texas law, unlike Arkansas law, to inform the homeowner I'm armed. Concealed is concealed, if I choose to visit an anti's house.

If someone doesn't want me or my possessions in their house, I won't go in their house, but I don't have a legal or ethical obligation to get prior approval for a firearm, a prayer rug, a knife, a Koran, or a cell phone.

Carrying in my home is the ultimate compliment. It says to me that you would protect the people within my home as if they were your own family, and protect my home as if it were yours.
If someone were to tell me that guns aren't welcome in their home, I would ask them if they are gauranteeing my safety, and how they are doing so. If that answer is unacceptable, thank you and good day .

This has only really been an issue for me one time. My ex-sister in law is very anti-gun (and also anti-violent sports, etc). She made it well known that guns were not allowed in her home. It really put a strain on my relationship with my brother and nephew / neice because she also forbid her kids from being in my house. I did bend to her wishes (which were my brothers by default since he never stood up to her on this point), and I did not carry when I went to their house. She even went so far as to try and restrict her kids from ever being in my home as part of the divorce decree. Needless to say, I'm not losing any sleep over my brothers decision to divorce her. I even bought him a gun for his divorce present.

Other than that, most people I know are pro-gun, even those that don't own guns.

Katygunnut wrote:This has only really been an issue for me one time. My ex-sister in law is very anti-gun (and also anti-violent sports, etc). She made it well known that guns were not allowed in her home. It really put a strain on my relationship with my brother and nephew / neice because she also forbid her kids from being in my house. I did bend to her wishes (which were my brothers by default since he never stood up to her on this point), and I did not carry when I went to their house. She even went so far as to try and restrict her kids from ever being in my home as part of the divorce decree. Needless to say, I'm not losing any sleep over my brothers decision to divorce her. I even bought him a gun for his divorce present.

Other than that, most people I know are pro-gun, even those that don't own guns.

Presumably if she told you specifically that guns were not allowed in her house, then she had provided notice under PC 30.06, and carrying there under your CHL would have been illegal. I generally follow a DADT policy with family/friends, where I'm not sure of their feelings, but I'm not so much of a 24/7 carrier as others...so it is not always that I'm carrying. When staying overnight I don't always have a secure location to lock up my guns away from the kids, so I secure them in the car and make sure it's locked and I have my keys.

Most of my friends and family are as pro-gun as I am so having a gun is not an option it is expected so it's not an issue. For others if they don't ask I don't tell and at bed time I take my suitcase into the bathroom and put the gun in there and leave the combo lock just 1 digit off and put the suitcase next to my bed. This allows both parties to sleep well at night them because they feel secure not knowing about the presence of a gun and me because I know I can protect myself if needed. As many have said on this forum and the way I choose to live "armed when legal" evil knows no boundaries