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Love the this headline and logic

CNN Confirms Bush Vindicated: Iraq Had Weapons Of Mass Destruction!
Well, the AK-47 takes a "high-capacity" magazine, and Iraq had lots of AK-47s... From this CNN screed on firearms:
"A high-capacity magazine in effect turns a semiautomatic firearm into a weapon of mass destruction."

I mean which is it? You can't have it both ways.
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There is good evidence Saddam used WMD on the Kurds.

Ameer wrote:There is good evidence Saddam used WMD on the Kurds.

Yes, Absolutely

When watching new Rookie officers how to frisk people, many many years ago I used to "conceal" 28 guns, so if 28 x 10 at the "reduced" capacity only allows 280 shots before a reload is required .... the legislation is as silly as trying to regulate how many pieces of shrapnel a suicide bomber may attach to his bomb .... and see if criminals abide by that law.

Ok. I can't help myself. I just have to ask.

How did you conceal 28 guns?

and for that matter...

How well did the officers do at finding all of them? I'd love to hear that they found them all, every time, but something tells me that's not the case...

RPB wrote:

Ameer wrote:There is good evidence Saddam used WMD on the Kurds.

Yes, Absolutely

IIRC that was the reason for his conviction and subsequent execution.

newTexan wrote:Ok. I can't help myself. I just have to ask.

How did you conceal 28 guns?

and for that matter...

How well did the officers do at finding all of them? I'd love to hear that they found them all, every time, but something tells me that's not the case...

Ankle holsters, thigh holsters... ankle holsters on my upper arms, guns in ankle holsters at my wrist
an NAA .22 under a baseball cap, guns in pockets, guns IWB, guns in belly bands, a gun or two on a neck chain/necklace .. couple in my cowboy boots ... shoulder holsters ...various ways

the most commonly missed one was ... under the baseball cap, most found it, a few didn't ... which was bad because an officer was killed by a NAA .22 to the back of his head in a patrol car, ... that's why I devised that exercise.

After I found 3 - I have you strip searched and you'd be going to jail in your undies. Hat is the first thing I take off - it makes a good place to put the rest of a person's property. Also common place to find rocks.

gigag04 wrote:Also common place to find rocks.

In their head?

WildBill wrote:

gigag04 wrote:Also common place to find rocks.

In their head?

gigag04 wrote:After I found 3 - I have you strip searched and you'd be going to jail in your undies. Hat is the first thing I take off - it makes a good place to put the rest of a person's property. Also common place to find rocks.

GOOD , Our academy was pretty good back in revolver days, and I applied at Baytown P.D. but neither they, nor Pasadena, nor other P.D.s wanted an officer who only had 1 hand (pre A.D.A. days) Later, I had 3 secretaries whose husbands were P.D, I made friends with all their acquaintances and also hired others to work for Private Investigation firm, as accident investigators reconstructionists etc, under the Law firm where I worked, and had some of my own little training classes, and bought them Glocks when they came out, and donated "assault weapons" and Customized Remington 870s, and a few vests, so the Dept could be better equipped, well, at least as equipped as I was .... almost

I did increase their awareness a bit back then.

Ameer wrote:There is good evidence Saddam used WMD on the Kurds.

Um...that was a decade before Bush started making an issue of it. We all know he had them at one time, but that time had passed by the time it was used as an excuse to invade.

Edit: More precisely, in 1988

RiverCity.45 wrote:

Ameer wrote:There is good evidence Saddam used WMD on the Kurds.

Um...that was a decade before Bush started making an issue of it. We all know he had them at one time, but that time had passed by the time it was used as an excuse to invade.

Edit: More precisely, in 1988

Actually, that's not true. Over 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium was removed from Iraq and throughout the war chemical weapons and labs and specialists continued to be found. The news media just didn't bother to talk about it much. The recent document dump from wikileaks included multiple documents confirming both facts. Mainstream media sources have reported about the yellowcake as well. Iraq's chemical weapons program was ongoing at least as of 1995 according to the UN agency tasked with tracking Iraq's weapons programs. To date those weapons stockpiles have never been accounted for although some believe Sadaam transferred them to Syria right before the war.

baldeagle wrote:

RiverCity.45 wrote:

Ameer wrote:There is good evidence Saddam used WMD on the Kurds.

Um...that was a decade before Bush started making an issue of it. We all know he had them at one time, but that time had passed by the time it was used as an excuse to invade.

Edit: More precisely, in 1988

Actually, that's not true. Over 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium was removed from Iraq and throughout the war chemical weapons and labs and specialists continued to be found. The news media just didn't bother to talk about it much. The recent document dump from wikileaks included multiple documents confirming both facts. Mainstream media sources have reported about the yellowcake as well. Iraq's chemical weapons program was ongoing at least as of 1995 according to the UN agency tasked with tracking Iraq's weapons programs. To date those weapons stockpiles have never been accounted for although some believe Sadaam transferred them to Syria right before the war.

Be careful to read the citations:

"Boylan said the suspected lab was new, dating from some time after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Bush administration cited evidence that Saddam Hussein's government was manufacturing weapons of mass destruction as the main justification for the invasion. No such weapons or factories were found."

Not before. After.

RiverCity.45 wrote:

baldeagle wrote:

RiverCity.45 wrote:

Ameer wrote:There is good evidence Saddam used WMD on the Kurds.

Um...that was a decade before Bush started making an issue of it. We all know he had them at one time, but that time had passed by the time it was used as an excuse to invade.

Edit: More precisely, in 1988

Actually, that's not true. Over 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium was removed from Iraq and throughout the war chemical weapons and labs and specialists continued to be found. The news media just didn't bother to talk about it much. The recent document dump from wikileaks included multiple documents confirming both facts. Mainstream media sources have reported about the yellowcake as well. Iraq's chemical weapons program was ongoing at least as of 1995 according to the UN agency tasked with tracking Iraq's weapons programs. To date those weapons stockpiles have never been accounted for although some believe Sadaam transferred them to Syria right before the war.

Be careful to read the citations:

"Boylan said the suspected lab was new, dating from some time after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Bush administration cited evidence that Saddam Hussein's government was manufacturing weapons of mass destruction as the main justification for the invasion. No such weapons or factories were found."

Not before. After.

I'm curious if you really believe Saddam used up every drop of the chemical agents he had on the Kurds? And I probably should remind you at this point that it wasn't just Bush who believe Saddam had, and might use again, those agents. Many Democrats also publicly stated as much - as did the intelligence services of the governments of other nations. But in the final analysis the burden of proof is on those who insist Iraq had no WMD's in light of the obvious evidence that they not only had them, but used them.

I truly believe people who are so sure Saddam had no WMD's should form a delegation, go to Iraq, and inform those who still suffer the after effects that Saddam really had no WMD's. Any takers?