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More blame being put one everything but the gunman
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:47 pm
by DONT TREAD ON ME
People are not only threatening the Tea Party but blaming them, Sarah Palin and other Republicans for the Tucson shooting. 
It seems that it is everyone's fault except the gunman and the Democrats. What sense does that make? How can people actually think like that and believe it? How can you blame anyone or anything other than the person that actually committed the crime?
Fox News wrote:He told The New York Times last week that he had trouble sleeping after he was wounded and repeatedly denounced the "Tea Party crime syndicate" in the interview. He said he placed some of the blame for the shooting on former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and other Republican leaders for creating a toxic atmosphere. Palin has denounced the attack, which does not appear to have been motivated by politics.
Re: More blame being put one everything but the gunman
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:15 pm
by 4copas
Here is another. This just turns my stomach over. Warning, some profanity in the first YTube video.
http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/01/br ... more-30288
Re: More blame being put one everything but the gunman
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:32 pm
by Thomas
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/opinion/11brooks.html
The Politicized Mind
By DAVID BROOKS
These accusations — that political actors contributed to the murder of 6 people, including a 9-year-old girl — are extremely grave. They were made despite the fact that there was, and is, no evidence that Loughner was part of these movements or a consumer of their literature. They were made despite the fact that the link between political rhetoric and actual violence is extremely murky. They were vicious charges made by people who claimed to be criticizing viciousness.
Yet such is the state of things. We have a news media that is psychologically ill informed but politically inflamed, so it naturally leans toward political explanations. We have a news media with a strong distaste for Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement, and this seemed like a golden opportunity to tarnish them. We have a segmented news media, so there is nobody in most newsrooms to stand apart from the prevailing assumptions. We have a news media market in which the rewards go to anybody who can stroke the audience’s pleasure buttons.
Emphasis mine.
Hypocracy - a prevalent theme among those with no brains
Re: More blame being put one everything but the gunman
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:43 pm
by Barbi Q
They're attacking the Tea Party to draw attention away from the fact that Loughner was a leftwing loony. That's supported by his internet postings and people who knew him. Some leftwing propogandists like the Daily Kos tried to tamper with or destroy evidence, but honest people were able to capture screenshots and other copies of the evidence before Loughner's fellow travelers could rewrite history.
Re: More blame being put one everything but the gunman
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:04 pm
by RPB
Barbi Q wrote:They're attacking the Tea Party to draw attention away from the fact that Loughner was a leftwing loony. That's supported by his internet postings and people who knew him. Some leftwing propogandists like the Daily Kos tried to tamper with or destroy evidence, but honest people were able to capture screenshots and other copies of the evidence before Loughner's fellow travelers could rewrite history.
Yep, I was comment/discussing things today with an army vet, who
started out ok with guns, no one needs a 33 round mag, and had a rational discussion, left at he's ok with whatever anyone has, if they aren't a wacko schizophrenic on drugs .... then the next "conversation" I had was with an anti-gun, anti "clip" guy calling me a liar after I showed him documentation of my cousin's murder, and he started acting as wild, made no sense and ranted same as Jared, like an anti-gun... radical left wing wacko schizophrenic on drugs ...
So, don't try to educate a pig, it's a waste of time, and annoys the pig.
I enjoyed the earlier rational thinker conversation though.
Re: More blame being put one everything but the gunman
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:32 pm
by Oldgringo
It appears that there was a plethora of warning signs and a plethora of folk who "coulda, woulda, shoulda"...
Some of these folk were the parents, the school and last but certainly not the least was Sheriff Dipstick. Alas.
Re: More blame being put one everything but the gunman
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:50 pm
by Thomas
Oldgringo wrote:It appears that there was a plethora of warning signs and a plethora of folk who "coulda, woulda, shoulda"...
Some of these folk were the parents, the school and last but certainly not the least was Sheriff Dipstick. Alas.
Copied from
10 myths about school shootings:
Bill Dedman wrote:Myth No. 3. “No one knew.”
Before most of the attacks, someone else knew about the idea or the plan. "In most cases, those who knew were other kids: friends, schoolmates, siblings and others. However, this information rarely made its way to an adult." Most attackers engaged in some behavior prior to the incident that caused concern or indicated a need for help.
Don't be paranoid, but if it doesn't seem right, say something. Same goes with people who commit suicide. Most of the time they try to reach out for help, but no one pays attention.
Re: More blame being put one everything but the gunman
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:14 pm
by tllstaco
"We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." - Ronald Reagan (who, in addition to being the 40th President of the United States, was also the target of an assassin's bullet.)
