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Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:02 pm**

I am wanting to build a 9mm carbine either AR or buy an MP5 clone. What do you guys/gals think the effective/accurate range of a 9mm out of a say a 10" barrel would be? Without too much hold over...I am wanting to maybe shoot out to 200yds and hit man size target consistently. Just wanting to know if that is feasible?

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:09 pm**

I don't think you'd have much stopping power with a 9mm at 200yds, even if you were on-target. Maybe enough to put a hole in paper, but not in a bad guy that had clothes on.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:32 pm**

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Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:14 am**

I understand I am not going to knock anything down at this range with a 9mm but was just wondering if it is possible to ring steel at 200yds with 9mm consistently anyway. Thanks for the kel-tec manual reference.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:17 pm**

I recently heard of a fellow board member getting "dings" out to 150yds with a 10.5 inch 9mm AR...which I didn't think could be done, so that's impressive.

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:54 pm**

AndyC wrote:Define "effective"? Hit or kill?

You should be able to hit a sandbag-sized (torso size) target out to 300 yards quite easily.

That'll just make em mad

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:09 pm**

cbr600 wrote:Check out page 17 of the Kel-Tec Sub2K manual for what they say about 9mm out of a 16" barrel.
http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_f ... manual.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

By that chart, if I'm reading it corrrectly, it appears that you'd be a little under 30" low and have just under 400 Ft Lbs of energy left at 200 yards...

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:24 pm**

PBratton wrote:By that chart, if I'm reading it corrrectly, it appears that you'd be a little under 30" low and have just under 400 Ft Lbs of energy left at 200 yards...

At 200 meters it would have as much energy as a .380 at 200 milimeters.

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:36 pm**

I was tailgating on day when I met a guy that just survived being shot by a Bersa 380. Wife found out he was cheating went to the bar and unloaded the whole mag on him. Not one round penetrated his body. Just had bruises. That's why I carry Ranger 9mm +p+ ammo

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:48 pm**

cajunautoxer wrote:I was tailgating on day when I met a guy that just survived being shot by a Bersa 380. Wife found out he was cheating went to the bar and unloaded the whole mag on him. Not one round penetrated his body. Just had bruises. That's why I carry Ranger 9mm +p+ ammo

I'll bet he was real mad when he sobered up the next day and found out about it

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:49 pm**

cajunautoxer wrote:I was tailgating on day when I met a guy that just survived being shot by a Bersa 380. Wife found out he was cheating went to the bar and unloaded the whole mag on him. Not one round penetrated his body. Just had bruises. That's why I carry Ranger 9mm +p+ ammo

That's either one incredibly tough dude or his kevlar underwear was worth every penny.

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:51 pm**

Excaliber wrote:That's either one incredibly tough dude or his kevlar underwear was worth every penny.

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:52 pm**

Excaliber wrote:
cajunautoxer wrote:I was tailgating on day when I met a guy that just survived being shot by a Bersa 380. Wife found out he was cheating went to the bar and unloaded the whole mag on him. Not one round penetrated his body. Just had bruises. That's why I carry Ranger 9mm +p+ ammo
That's either one incredibly tough dude or his kevlar underwear was worth every penny....or he was checking to see how far he could take it before you called it on him (my bet).

A failure to stop with a .380? No problem.

A failure of a full magazine of rounds fired from close range to penetrate to skin? Uh - uh.

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