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TSA Screeners missed 3 box cutters in a Jet Blue passenger's carry-on. There gonna retrain them

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puma guy wrote:TSA Screeners missed 3 box cutters in a Jet Blue passenger's carry-on. There gonna retrain them

Retrain them to do what? Let knives and short swords through as well?

Dave2 wrote:

puma guy wrote:TSA Screeners missed 3 box cutters in a Jet Blue passenger's carry-on. There gonna retrain them

Retrain them to do what? Let knives and short swords through as well?

'zactly

puma guy wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

puma guy wrote:TSA Screeners missed 3 box cutters in a Jet Blue passenger's carry-on. There gonna retrain them

Retrain them to do what? Let knives and short swords through as well?

'zactly

Oh good. Then by the time I fly again, they'll be letting guns through and I won't have to check mine and risk having it stolen.

TSA is a said state of affairs. really I wonder if going to the private sector would be better and fix some of the issues. For all the hassels we have to go threw and being at the airport 2 hours early they would be doing a better job.

cheezit wrote:TSA is a said state of affairs. really I wonder if going to the private sector would be better and fix some of the issues. For all the hassels we have to go threw and being at the airport 2 hours early they would be doing a better job.

If airport security were left to the airlines travelers would naturally gravitate to the airline that provides the level of security and inconvenience that they find most to their liking. That airline will sell more tickets while the others decline. Then the other airlines will mimic the security of the successful one in order to improve their ticket sales. It is merely a seller trying to please a buyer, just like every other uncoerced transaction. In this fashion the passengers, rather than airlines or governments, determine what kind of security they want and a willing to participate in.

bnc wrote:

cheezit wrote:TSA is a said state of affairs. really I wonder if going to the private sector would be better and fix some of the issues. For all the hassels we have to go threw and being at the airport 2 hours early they would be doing a better job.

If airport security were left to the airlines travelers would naturally gravitate to the airline that provides the level of security and inconvenience that they find most to their liking. That airline will sell more tickets while the others decline. Then the other airlines will mimic the security of the successful one in order to improve their ticket sales. It is merely a seller trying to please a buyer, just like every other uncoerced transaction. In this fashion the passengers, rather than airlines or governments, determine what kind of security they want and a willing to participate in.

You mean like it used to be? I'm all for that!

Frankly it worked JUST fine on 9/10/01...and TSA wouldn't have changed anything on the morning of 9/11. Fact is the box cutters that were used were allowed articles at the time.

That, and the inescapable truths of security...
1) Bad people will do bad things.
2) Good people can't always prevent rule #1.

TSA is a joke and merely well staged theatre to make the public happy. Since 9/11 appx. 7.5 Billion (with a B) have flown in the US with 0 confirmed cases of the organization preventing an incident from occurring. Whether it is the TSA or private security you will always have the same issue. To prevent incidents, security has to be right 100% of the time. To cause an incident a terrorist has to be right once.

...remember the good ole days when they'd lay the blade across their fingers where they met the hand and if it didn't stick out too far either side, you got it handed back to you?!!! Guess that tells my age...won't be flying again, for sure...

steveincowtown wrote:TSA is a joke and merely well staged theatre to make the public happy. Since 9/11 appx. 7.5 Billion (with a B) have flown in the US with 0 confirmed cases of the organization preventing an incident from occurring. Whether it is the TSA or private security you will always have the same issue. To prevent incidents, security has to be right 100% of the time. To cause an incident a terrorist has to be right once.

To me the only reason we haven't had another 911 is they haven't really tried.

To me the shoe bomber and the underpants bomber were just cruel jokes to annoy every US citizen to make us have to take our shoes off and now get our junk 3d radiated just to get on a plane. They probably sit in their caves and laugh about this every day.

philip964 wrote:

steveincowtown wrote:TSA is a joke and merely well staged theatre to make the public happy. Since 9/11 appx. 7.5 Billion (with a B) have flown in the US with 0 confirmed cases of the organization preventing an incident from occurring. Whether it is the TSA or private security you will always have the same issue. To prevent incidents, security has to be right 100% of the time. To cause an incident a terrorist has to be right once.

To me the only reason we haven't had another 911 is they haven't really tried.

To me the shoe bomber and the underpants bomber were just cruel jokes to annoy every US citizen to make us have to take our shoes off and now get our junk 3d radiated just to get on a plane. They probably sit in their caves and laugh about this every day.

Exactly. They know they can't defeat us, so they are goading us into defeating ourselves, and doing quite well at it.

speedsix wrote:...remember the good ole days when they'd lay the blade across their fingers where they met the hand and if it didn't stick out too far either side, you got it handed back to you?!!! Guess that tells my age...won't be flying again, for sure...

Yes I do! If you recall Pre 9/11 Spyderco had a knife designed for travelling called the "co-pilot."