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Amtrak police chief bars TSA from some security operations
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:36 pm
by VMI77
http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/forums/p/188504/2059127.aspx
Interesting coda to TSA's recent illegal search activity at a Georgia train station.
Re: Amtrak police chief bars TSA from some security operatio
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:56 pm
by MeMelYup
Could not get to the site
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Re: Amtrak police chief bars TSA from some security operatio
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:08 am
by VMI77
MeMelYup wrote:Could not get to the site
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I just checked the link again and it works ---though it was slow loading.
Re: Amtrak police chief bars TSA from some security operatio
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:50 am
by jordanmills
Good. Anything to stop the TSA.
Are you aware of the legislation to outlaw groping and the naked cancer scanners here in Texas?
HB 1937: Relating to the offensive touching of persons seeking access to public buildings and transportation; providing penalties.
Texas Legislature Online - 82(R) History for HB 1937
HB 1938: Relating to the prohibition of whole-body scanners in airports; providing criminal and civil penalties.
Texas Legislature Online - 82(R) History for HB 1938
Both are in committee right now. Some are saying it's unlikely to get much attention, some are saying it will fly right out of committee.
Re: Amtrak police chief bars TSA from some security operatio
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:52 pm
by OldCurlyWolf
jordanmills wrote:Good. Anything to stop the TSA.
Are you aware of the legislation to outlaw groping and the naked cancer scanners here in Texas?
HB 1937: Relating to the offensive touching of persons seeking access to public buildings and transportation; providing penalties.
Texas Legislature Online - 82(R) History for HB 1937
HB 1938: Relating to the prohibition of whole-body scanners in airports; providing criminal and civil penalties.
Texas Legislature Online - 82(R) History for HB 1938
Both are in committee right now. Some are saying it's unlikely to get much attention, some are saying it will fly right out of committee.
Have your legislature send copies of those bills to EVERY legislature in the country. Then after them going into effect, we can send a BUNCH of those TSA thugs to jail, where they belong.
Re: Amtrak police chief bars TSA from some security operatio
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:02 pm
by ScottDLS
OldCurlyWolf wrote:jordanmills wrote:Good. Anything to stop the TSA.
Are you aware of the legislation to outlaw groping and the naked cancer scanners here in Texas?
HB 1937: Relating to the offensive touching of persons seeking access to public buildings and transportation; providing penalties.
Texas Legislature Online - 82(R) History for HB 1937
HB 1938: Relating to the prohibition of whole-body scanners in airports; providing criminal and civil penalties.
Texas Legislature Online - 82(R) History for HB 1938
Both are in committee right now. Some are saying it's unlikely to get much attention, some are saying it will fly right out of committee.
Have your legislature send copies of those bills to EVERY legislature in the country. Then after them going into effect, we can send a BUNCH of those TSA thugs to jail, where they belong.
Fun idea. But, as I believe has been said in other thread, this TSA behavior is probably best challenged at the Federal level on 4th Amendment grounds. In fact, attempting to enforce a state law on Federal employees acting in their official capacity would probably result in Federal charges against the state LEO. I believe it would be akin to the NYPD arresting an FBI agent for carrying without a NYC license. A Federal judge will not be amused.
In areas where the Federal government has Constitutional authority, Federal law is supreme to that of the States.
Article VI - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths
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This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
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Re: Amtrak police chief bars TSA from some security operatio
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:14 am
by TexasGal
This sounds like training activities for them to prepare to screen on buses, trains, and roadways in the future. They obviously have no intention of stopping their power high with airports. They want to be able to stop and detain any citizen at any time to ascertain if they are carrying anything that does not meet with their approval. They want to use mobile scanners and teams to do so. At the top, the thirst for power under the guise of searching for terrorists has gone to their heads. They just might pull it off too. Just look at how the common citizens quickly accepted being groped for every plane trip once they were told it was to make them "safer". So how concealed is concealed for any of us if we drive through scanners, walk through them everywhere, etc? I'm all for catching the bad guys, but I don't want to lose what little freedom is left to us to come and go as free men and women.