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Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:00 am
by Jasonw560
Something interesting on one of the agendas in one of the bodies that makes up our legislative branch in the state of Texas. (Obtuse because of trolls)

FYI: If you tweet, try @mohawkjohn to find out what you need to know about things. Let him know you care. :-)

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:07 am
by JCole
I don't see it.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:15 am
by Jasonw560
Two different things.

The second one is John Woods' personal twitter account.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:58 am
by mreavis
I also cannot find what it is I'm looking for on his page but it may have been pushed back now.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:12 am
by Jasonw560
The first thing is smething happening next week.

The second thing has nothing to do with the first. It's just John Woods' personal twitter account, which I thought we could all laugh at.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:17 am
by mreavis
Jasonw560 wrote:The first thing is smething happening next week.

The second thing has nothing to do with the first. It's just John Woods' personal twitter account, which I thought we could all laugh at.
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:32 am
by baldeagle
Care to give us non-Twitter types a bit more of a clue? I read through what I think are his tweets and saw nothing that reference what you seem to be referencing.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:36 pm
by hirundo82
baldeagle wrote:Care to give us non-Twitter types a bit more of a clue?
SB354 is on the intent calendar again for 4/18. Since Mr. Cotton put it on the bill status report, I don't think it is secret.

Get those calls and faxes in to the senators today, this weekend, and Monday AM.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:08 pm
by A-R
hirundo82 wrote:
baldeagle wrote:Care to give us non-Twitter types a bit more of a clue?
SB354 is on the intent calendar again for 4/18. Since Mr. Cotton put it on the bill status report, I don't think it is secret.

Get those calls and faxes in to the senators today, this weekend, and Monday AM.
So I wonder who has come back over to the good side?

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:15 pm
by Jasonw560
True. I didn't see that until now.

I was going on what was hinted upon. Those cryptic things that go on when you try to get a straight answer.

Anyway, I have my 2 daily faxzero faxes sent.

Let's keep our fingers and toes and eyes crossed that it does come to pass.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:26 pm
by hirundo82
austinrealtor wrote:So I wonder who has come back over to the good side?
I see SB354 is also listed on the regular order of business for Monday. Does that obviate the need for a 2/3rds majority?

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:32 pm
by Jasonw560
I don't know. I wouldn't think so. From what I can gaher, it means they're bring it up for consideration. I doubt it would be on the regular order of business if someone hadn't left the dark side of the force, and they have the 2/3 they need.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:35 pm
by baldeagle
hirundo82 wrote:
austinrealtor wrote:So I wonder who has come back over to the good side?
I see SB354 is also listed on the regular order of business for Monday. Does that obviate the need for a 2/3rds majority?
I think it does. Bills must be read three times. Each reading must be on a separate day. Normally the Senate votes to suspend the rules, read the bill a second time, read it a third time and then vote on passage. The House does not do that. (Senator Whitmire routinely objects to suspending the rules on principle.) So I think what this means is that the bill will be read and debated on Monday. Then it will be placed on the Senate order of business later in the week and either passed or defeated.

I'm sure Charles can clarify or refute me with his eyes closed and both hands tied behind his back. :biggrinjester:

EDITED: Here's a followup, from this page: Guide to Texas Legislative Information
Senate rules require that bills and resolutions be listed on the regular order of business and be considered on second reading in the order in which committee reports on the measures are submitted to the senate. During a regular session, the senate adopts a further rule specifying that before a bill or joint resolution may be brought up for floor debate out of its regular order, notice of intent must be filed with the secretary of the senate by 3 p.m. on the last preceding calendar day the senate was in session. A senator may give notice on no more than three bills or resolutions before April 15 and on no more than five bills or resolutions on or after April 15. Senate rules direct the secretary of the senate to prepare a list of all legislation for which notice has been given. The list, called the Intent Calendar, must be made available to each senator and to the press not later than 6:30 p.m. on the day the notice is filed. No bill or resolution may be considered on its first day on the Intent Calendar, and a vote of two-thirds of the senators present is required before any of the measures listed on the Intent Calendar may be debated. The senate rules do not require measures to be brought up for consideration in the order listed on the Intent Calendar, and the senate routinely considers only a portion of those measures listed on the Intent Calendar for a given day. A senator must give notice from day to day for a measure that was not brought up for consideration to remain on the Intent Calendar. Any provision of the senate rule governing the Intent Calendar may be suspended by a vote of four-fifths of the members present.
So SB 354 is following the normally prescribed course of a bill rather than the usual Senate process of bypassing the normal order of business to get other bills moved to the front of the line. That means, if I understand it correctly, that a 2/3rds vote will not be required to get the bill considered.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:51 pm
by Jasonw560
baldeagle wrote:
hirundo82 wrote:
austinrealtor wrote:So I wonder who has come back over to the good side?
I see SB354 is also listed on the regular order of business for Monday. Does that obviate the need for a 2/3rds majority?
I think it does. Bills must be read three times. Each reading must be on a separate day. Normally the Senate votes to suspend the rules, read the bill, read it a second time, read it a third time and then vote on passage. The House does not do that. (Senator Whitmire routinely objects to suspending the rules on principle.) So I think what this means is that the bill will be read and debated on Monday. Then it will be placed on the Senate order of business later in the week and either passed or defeated.

I'm sure Charles can clarify or refute me with his eyes closed and both hands tied behind his back. :biggrinjester:
I stand corrected.

Re: Monday Apr 18

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:56 pm
by hirundo82
baldeagle wrote:So SB 354 is following the normally prescribed course of a bill rather than the usual Senate process of bypassing the normal order of business to get other bills moved to the front of the line. That means, if I understand it correctly, that a 2/3rds vote will not be required to get the bill considered.
:thumbs2:

That's my understanding too.