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CHL Carry in Municipal Bldg.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:33 am
by Zaxdad
Went to the County Clerks office in Waxahachie yesterday. On the door it say's "No knives/No guns".
Inside there is a LEO and a metal detector.
Under Section 46.035 (c), it only states "at any meeting of a governmental entity". I understand if there are courts and they are in session.
I see no reason not to be able to Legally carry.
Please educate me, if I am missing/misunderstanding something. If I am in the wrong, no problem. If not, the LEO need some learnin'.
Re: CHL Carry in Municipal Bldg.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:37 am
by Jasonw560
From what I understand, they can't legally enforce it since it is a government building, and there are no courts inside there.
The $64,000 question is how to do it without them marching out a 30.06

Re: CHL Carry in Municipal Bldg.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:39 am
by ScottDLS
Zaxdad wrote:Went to the County Clerks office in Waxahachie yesterday. On the door it say's "No knives/No guns".
Inside there is a LEO and a metal detector.
Under Section 46.035 (c), it only states "at any meeting of a governmental entity". I understand if there are courts and they are in session.
I see no reason not to be able to Legally carry.
Please educate me, if I am missing/misunderstanding something. If I am in the wrong, no problem. If not, the LEO need some learnin'.
Is there a Courtroom or court office in the building? If so 46.03 applies regardless of whether you have a CHL or whether the court is in session.
PC ยง46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits
an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm,
illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon
listed in Section 46.05(a):
...
(3) on the premises of any government court or offices utilized by
the court, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization
of the court;
...
Re: CHL Carry in Municipal Bldg.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:43 am
by Zaxdad
Will check for the Sec. 46.03. Thanks
I also had my knife. Had to take it back and SECURE it in the truck.
Didn't want it to get LOOSE and attack someone.

Re: CHL Carry in Municipal Bldg.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:53 am
by Hoi Polloi
There's another place in Texas where this comes up. I've forgotten where to be able to search the forum for it.
1. There is controversy over whether the entire building is off limits if a court office is in the building. The legal definition of premises is building or portion of a building, so some people interpret that to mean only the parts used by courts (those people tending to be more CHL holders) while some interpret that to mean all of the building (those people tending to have more LEOs and judges who are working in said buildings).
2. If a person successfully argued that the building is not off limits, any 30.06 that would be posted would be invalid since it is a government entity that isn't off limits. Those same LEOs and judges who were inclined to think the entire building was off limits would most likely believe the 30.06 they posted was valid and binding.
3. There are reports that some places are putting a "court office" in every government building with the intent of trying to make the entire building off limits to CHL holders.
4. In some places, showing your CHL to the LEO at the metal detector gets you through with your concealed handgun. Most places that isn't the case as LEOs stationed at a metal detector and told to allow no guns past tend to take that literally and fall into the camp who believes the entire building is off limits because the metal detector is there and he's hired to make it so.