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Ok, my question is, If I have my gun locked in a gunvault or similar lockable box while in my car, am I still carrying? The basis of my question is, say I go to a bar, since I know I will be drinking, and there is no legal limit for carrying while intoxicated, if I lock the gun in a lockbox am I still considered to be carrying?

paulhailes wrote:Ok, my question is, If I have my gun locked in a gunvault or similar lockable box while in my car, am I still carrying? The basis of my question is, say I go to a bar, since I know I will be drinking, and there is no legal limit for carrying while intoxicated, if I lock the gun in a lockbox am I still considered to be carrying?

IMO, if the gun is in the passenger compartment, yes. In the truck, no. If you are intoxicated driving a car you can be arrested with or without a gun.

WildBill wrote:IMO, if the gun is in the passenger compartment, yes. In the truck, no. If you are intoxicated driving a car you can be arrested with or without a gun.

Thanks, thats what I though but wasn't sure and I would never drive over the legal limit.

paulhailes wrote:

WildBill wrote:IMO, if the gun is in the passenger compartment, yes. In the truck, no. If you are intoxicated driving a car you can be arrested with or without a gun.

Thanks, thats what I though but wasn't sure and I would never drive over the legal limit.

You can still be intoxicated while being under 0.08% BAC. IANAL

WildBill wrote: You can still be intoxicated while being under 0.08% BAC. IANAL

I guess intoxicated was not the word I was looking for, anywho thanks for the help

As has been pointed out previously, the definition of "intoxicated" is the same for driving as it is for carrying under CHL. So if you feel you have had too many to carry, you shouldn't drive either.

ScottDLS wrote:As has been pointed out previously, the definition of "intoxicated" is the same for driving as it is for carrying under CHL. So if you feel you have had too many to carry, you shouldn't drive either.

And vice versa.

But, but, but....we know how people are. Especially college kids! We can't regulate under age kids from drinking. What if they have a GUN and drink? Blood in the streets!! Wild West OK corral mayhem!! THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!

Jasonw560 wrote:But, but, but....we know how people are. Especially college kids! We can't regulate under age kids from drinking. What if they have a GUN and drink? Blood in the streets!! Wild West OK corral mayhem!! THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!

WildBill wrote:

Jasonw560 wrote:But, but, but....we know how people are. Especially college kids! We can't regulate under age kids from drinking. What if they have a GUN and drink? Blood in the streets!! Wild West OK corral mayhem!! THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!

paulhailes wrote:

WildBill wrote:IMO, if the gun is in the passenger compartment, yes. In the truck, no. If you are intoxicated driving a car you can be arrested with or without a gun.

Thanks, thats what I though but wasn't sure and I would never drive over the legal limit.

lets change the way this is worded, thin of it as an illegal limit, because your not "legal" just because your under it but you are "illegal" if your over it. you can be declared intoxicated with out drinking any alcohol.

My question was centered around having drank 1 or 2 beers. I miss spoke, or typed, earlier when I said intoxicated, I simply meant having any alcohol in my system what so ever.

paulhailes wrote:My question was centered around having drank 1 or 2 beers. I miss spoke, or typed, earlier when I said intoxicated, I simply meant having any alcohol in my system what so ever.

having alcohol in your system does not make it illegal to carry is my point, being intoxicated does.

(I am not saying I would wear my gun out drinking )

paulhailes wrote:My question was centered around having drank 1 or 2 beers. I miss spoke, or typed, earlier when I said intoxicated, I simply meant having any alcohol in my system what so ever.

I understood your post. I was just trying to emphasize a point.

WildBill wrote:

paulhailes wrote:My question was centered around having drank 1 or 2 beers. I miss spoke, or typed, earlier when I said intoxicated, I simply meant having any alcohol in my system what so ever.

I understood your post. I was just trying to emphasize a point.

its important to understand that being under .08 is not a safe zone. its how your body tolerates the alcohol that will ultimatly effect whether or not you are intoxicated