Re: att conference center & hotel in austin
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:14 pm
Looking at the website and Google maps, I wouldn't carry there.
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I show "Board of Regents of the University of Texas", but that doesn't necessarily make it a "school".Keith B wrote:According to Travis County tax records, 1900 University Ave location taxes are paid by AT&T, so it appears to be privately owned. Not sure about any 30.06 posting though.
Interesting, if you search Real Property you get that (I tried earlier and didn't get a return, so may have had something wrong in the search.) If you search Business Property, you get the two AT&T's and Compass LLC. I think I would be cautious then of carrying there since the real property shows up as Board Of Regents..ScottDLS wrote:I show "Board of Regents of the University of Texas", but that doesn't necessarily make it a "school".Keith B wrote:According to Travis County tax records, 1900 University Ave location taxes are paid by AT&T, so it appears to be privately owned. Not sure about any 30.06 posting though.
http://www.traviscad.org/travisdetail.php?theKey=203888
Business property is equipment, furniture, etc. Real property is land and improvements.Keith B wrote:Interesting, if you search Real Property you get that (I tried earlier and didn't get a return, so may have had something wrong in the search.) If you search Business Property, you get the two AT&T's and Compass LLC. I think I would be cautious then of carrying there since the real property shows up as Board Of Regents..ScottDLS wrote:I show "Board of Regents of the University of Texas", but that doesn't necessarily make it a "school".Keith B wrote:According to Travis County tax records, 1900 University Ave location taxes are paid by AT&T, so it appears to be privately owned. Not sure about any 30.06 posting though.
http://www.traviscad.org/travisdetail.php?theKey=203888
This is correct. I have no additional info about the particular property in question (outside my area of Austin expertise), but if it's owned by UT I'd be cautious.ScottDLS wrote:Business property is equipment, furniture, etc. Real property is land and improvements.Keith B wrote:Interesting, if you search Real Property you get that (I tried earlier and didn't get a return, so may have had something wrong in the search.) If you search Business Property, you get the two AT&T's and Compass LLC. I think I would be cautious then of carrying there since the real property shows up as Board Of Regents..ScottDLS wrote:I show "Board of Regents of the University of Texas", but that doesn't necessarily make it a "school".Keith B wrote:According to Travis County tax records, 1900 University Ave location taxes are paid by AT&T, so it appears to be privately owned. Not sure about any 30.06 posting though.
http://www.traviscad.org/travisdetail.php?theKey=203888
Yeah, but you could probably still be prosecuted if it is considered a school under §46.03. We've had this discussion before in regards to a hotel owned by the University of Houston.mikeloc wrote:Is your hotel room premises under your control?
I think so.
Mike
You guys would be shocked if you found out how much property the UT system actually owns in the state. If all that property were considered a school, one would be hard pressed to find any place in NW Austin that you could carry. Heck, you would have to drive up 183 practially to Leander before you were on non-UT owned land.hirundo82 wrote:Yeah, but you could probably still be prosecuted if it is considered a school under §46.03. We've had this discussion before in regards to a hotel owned by the University of Houston.mikeloc wrote:Is your hotel room premises under your control?
I think so.
Mike
The prohibition is on "premises" (buildings for the sake of this discussion), not property.TDDude wrote:You guys would be shocked if you found out how much property the UT system actually owns in the state. If all that property were considered a school, one would be hard pressed to find any place in NW Austin that you could carry. Heck, you would have to drive up 183 practially to Leander before you were on non-UT owned land.
All the statute says is we can't carry on the premises of "schools." Nowhere in the statute is that defined, and I'm not aware of it being limited by court cases to buildings where educational activities occur--common sense would seem to limit it to that, but we're dealing with the law. Until it is better defined what is a "school" for the purposes of §46.03, or campus carry passes, I avoid carrying in all buildings owned by a university.TDDude wrote:I don't know if the Hotel is owned by UT; it probably is but is leased by ATT which is why they are paying taxes on it. Regardless, if classes arent taught there and the building is not physically attached to a building that does teach classes. and it's not posted, you're good to go.