Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:01 pm
Which state would you consider the most RKBA friendly state, and why?
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Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 5:49 pm
The why is going to be a big part. Different people have different weights for CCW, OCW, NFA, and knife laws. Then we get into things like hunting, self defense laws, and other things not directly RKBA that sometimes get lumped in.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:06 pm
Alaska, based on both laws and overall culture.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:11 pm
OK, I lived there for 11 years before moving back to Texas. Perhaps I should have added to my question, ..."in the lower 48 states." BTW, Alaska has changed dramatically over the past 30 years in "political" culture. Far more liberal than ever now.hirundo82 wrote:Alaska, based on both laws and overall culture.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:14 pm
OK, but you asked most friendly RKBA not most conservative. When it comes to RKBA friendly I think any state that doesn't have some kind of unlicensed carry for normal people is out of the running.G26ster wrote:OK, I lived there for 11 years before moving back to Texas. Perhaps I should have added to my question, ..."in the lower 48 states." BTW, Alaska has changed dramatically over the past 30 years in "political" culture. Far more liberal than ever now.hirundo82 wrote:Alaska, based on both laws and overall culture.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:17 pm
...in my experience, Texas...more progress to restore our rights made here in the last few years than anywhere else I know about...more professional attitude on the part of LEOs towards the carrying public...have never heard or heard of a Texas lawman showing hostility towards a CHL...glad to be here!!!
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:40 pm
OK, I was addressing the "overall culture," as mentioned by hirundo82, when I said Alaska is far more liberal than ever now.boba wrote:OK, but you asked most friendly RKBA not most conservative. When it comes to RKBA friendly I think any state that doesn't have some kind of unlicensed carry for normal people is out of the running.G26ster wrote:OK, I lived there for 11 years before moving back to Texas. Perhaps I should have added to my question, ..."in the lower 48 states." BTW, Alaska has changed dramatically over the past 30 years in "political" culture. Far more liberal than ever now.hirundo82 wrote:Alaska, based on both laws and overall culture.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:59 pm
Arizona had unlicensed open carry many years and now also has unlicensed concealed carry, so it's near the top.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:04 pm
Lower 48...VA? They have OC and were early adopters into CC laws.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:53 pm
In the lower 48, Arizona, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah are probably the top, considering culture and laws. If we're talking about laws alone, places like Vermont and New Hampshire come into the discussion, but they're too close to NY and MA.
I'd probably place Texas in the top quartile but not top 5, but that may just be a reflection of where I live (I hope to move to a much more gun-friendly area of Texas within 10 years).
I'd probably place Texas in the top quartile but not top 5, but that may just be a reflection of where I live (I hope to move to a much more gun-friendly area of Texas within 10 years).
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:16 pm
Offhand, I'd say New Hampshire, actually.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:10 pm
Open carry, concealed carry, without license in more than 95% of the whole state (not in town).
Concealed carry in towns with license issued by the sheriff.
You gotta love Montana....
Concealed carry in towns with license issued by the sheriff.
You gotta love Montana....
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:15 pm
lkd wrote:Offhand, I'd say New Hampshire, actually.
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:04 pm
Really? I love Texas, but I don't think we're close.speedsix wrote:...in my experience, Texas...more progress to restore our rights made here in the last few years than anywhere else I know about...more professional attitude on the part of LEOs towards the carrying public...have never heard or heard of a Texas lawman showing hostility towards a CHL...glad to be here!!!
-No open carry.
-Very strict trespass (class A misdemeanor). The 30.06 sign requirements are nice, but there are numerous states where you must be asked to leave before you can be convicted of trespass and its usually the equivalent of a Texas class C.
-Restrictions on carrying in 51% bars. NH and PA have none.
-No campus carry (yet). Utah has it.
-No parking lot protection (yet). OK and FL have.
-Extensive training requirements and expensive license...not altogether bad, but if we're comparing to no license required states... AK, AZ, VT...
LEO/Official attitude?
-Round Rock PD (Handog)
-Dallas PD (say they'll "enforce" 30.05 signs at Dallas Love
)-Former Harris County DA (car carry)
-Plano ISD (30.06 signs in school parking/pick up areas, claim they'll enforce)
-DPS Attorney (keeps insisting any sign is adequate for 30.06 notice)
-Scott
Re: Most Friendly RKBA State?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:50 pm
...well, did you want to answer the OP or just argue with the old man???ScottDLS wrote:Really? I love Texas, but I don't think we're close.speedsix wrote:...in my experience, Texas...more progress to restore our rights made here in the last few years than anywhere else I know about...more professional attitude on the part of LEOs towards the carrying public...have never heard or heard of a Texas lawman showing hostility towards a CHL...glad to be here!!!
-No open carry.
-Very strict trespass (class A misdemeanor). The 30.06 sign requirements are nice, but there are numerous states where you must be asked to leave before you can be convicted of trespass and its usually the equivalent of a Texas class C.
-Restrictions on carrying in 51% bars. NH and PA have none.
-No campus carry (yet). Utah has it.
-No parking lot protection (yet). OK and FL have.
-Extensive training requirements and expensive license...not altogether bad, but if we're comparing to no license required states... AK, AZ, VT...
LEO/Official attitude?
-Round Rock PD (Handog)
-Dallas PD (say they'll "enforce" 30.05 signs at Dallas Love
-Former Harris County DA (car carry)
-Plano ISD (30.06 signs in school parking/pick up areas, claim they'll enforce)
-DPS Attorney (keeps insisting any sign is adequate for 30.06 notice)
-Scott