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I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:23 pm
by howdy
The local Houston NBC news just reported that a cleaning crew found a handgun in a bathroom in the secure area of Bush Houston Intercontinental Airport. An I.C.E. Agent says he left the gun in the bathroom....more to come.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:55 pm
by howdy
link to above story
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Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:09 pm
by The Mad Moderate
How often do you hear about CHLers leaving their gun someplace. In Austin we had a APD officer leave his gun ON A PLAYSCAPE and every so often we hear something like this. Just saying...
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:14 pm
by gigag04
A chl holder left his gun in a hotel a while back.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:29 pm
by sookandy
I heard a loud clack and something go sliding across the floor at the airport in DFW once, it was an air marshal's loaded mag he dropped. No one else seemed to notice. He scurried pretty quick to pick it up.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:48 am
by Grammy
I heard about it this morning.
I'm sure he/she was just going #2 and put it on the shelf behind the toilet, then walked out without the pistol.
Wondering what are your thoughts on what sure happen to the agent? This was in the secure area of terminal E.
Jim
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:53 am
by papajohn1964
There is no excuse! I hope there are some sort of criminal charges for him to face.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:05 am
by texanron
The unemployment line today should have a former ICE agent whose must recent post was at the big airport in Houston waiting in it.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:17 am
by Grammy
texanron wrote:The unemployment line today should have a former ICE agent whose must recent post was at the big airport in Houston waiting in it.
I'm thinking the same, I was suprised that HPD just gave them the pistol back after showing ID. Everyone makes mistakes but the outcome could have been severe.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:47 pm
by papajohn1964
texanron wrote:The unemployment line today should have a former ICE agent whose must recent post was at the big airport in Houston waiting in it.
In the bathroom in the secure area of Bush Houston Intercontinental Airport?
Not in the unemployment line but wearing a orange jumpsuit and getting a full body cavity search. That's probably what would be happening to someone that was not a LEO. Again there is NO EXCUSE for this!!!!!
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:04 pm
by srothstein
While we are all angered at the stupidity of things like this, when I see people claim he should be charged, i have to ask what law he broke? If a CHL could legally have the gun where the ICE agent did and forgot it in the bathroom, what charges would you bring against him?
And I would venture to point out that this is not the end of it. I know of no criminal charges for this offense (I could be wrong of course). But I have a lot of confidence that his IA will be taking some sort of action against his job for this. Whether it is a suspension or termination, I don't know (but I would bet on just a suspension). And we need to keep that in mind too. A CHL is clear if there are no charges filed but an officer has to worry about the job action also.
I am not complaining about this, that is the system, we knew it when we started the job, and it seems fair to me to have the additional threat for job related actions. I just wanted everyone to remember it when they start yelling for someone's head to roll.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:28 pm
by AEA
srothstein wrote:If a CHL could legally have the gun where the ICE agent did and forgot it in the bathroom, what charges would you bring against him?
How about failure to conceal?
How about failure to control?
I'm not saying that the CHL would be convicted, but in reality I think an overzealous Cop could come up with all sorts of "charges" for the CHL to "take the ride".
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:45 pm
by hawk44
mho
he misplaced a tool. Just like others of us have done (screw drive, wrench, pen, etc.). That id
s a tool of his trade and although it is not something to lose it happens. I would not think he would walk away from this with out any penalties but I would hate to think I would be job hunting the next day because I left a screw driver laying on the job site.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:05 pm
by The Mad Moderate
hawk44 wrote:mho
he misplaced a tool. Just like others of us have done (screw drive, wrench, pen, etc.). That id
s a tool of his trade and although it is not something to lose it happens. I would not think he would walk away from this with out any penalties but I would hate to think I would be job hunting the next day because I left a screw driver laying on the job site.
A screwdriver and a loaded .40 are NOT the same thing if a kid finds one he may poke his eye out, if he finds thee other, well use your imagination. It should be punished because it is VERY dangerous.
Re: I.C.E. Agent
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:41 pm
by terryg
Forgive me ... But what is an ICE agent?