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Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:53 am
by ss1088
Can you carry at a school owned stadium during a non-school event. I have heard the place is 30.06 (not compliant) posted but it is owned by the district.
I am going to an event and would like to know my rights.
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Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:01 am
by JCole
I'm guessing that if you have to pass through any kind of door to enter the stadium, it is off limits (considered premises.)
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:04 am
by ss1088
I think this is a bit tricky. Would the stadium be defined as a school since it is owned by the school district? I will only be going in to the stadium and not any of the buildings in the center.
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:17 am
by JCole
I agree that it's tricky. Remember, it doesn't have to be a school to be off limits, but school premises, which doesn't include school parking lots, grounds, etc. That is why my opinion is, that if you have to enter the stadium through a door, especially one that can be secured, even the stadium might be considered 'premises.' If you can walk directly from the parking lot, through an opening in the fence, and enter the stadium, it might not be considered 'premises.'
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:23 am
by ss1088
I think I will just leave it in the car for this event. There is too much uncertainty for my liking. It seems that I often can’t carry my weapon in situations where I feel like I am at more risk.
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:26 am
by speedsix
....School district HQ has no students...but the building is school owned...and so is off limits...same for a stadium owned by a district...or a lawn mower shed, for that matter...ain't worth the hassle...(bugs them Ainglish teachers when I say ain't)...
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:34 am
by apostate
The law says what the law says, but some people interpret it differently. AFAIK there's no case law.
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:35 am
by Blindref757
If they aren't going to be scanning, and concealed means concealed...

Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:36 am
by ss1088
speedsix wrote:....School district HQ has no students...but the building is school owned...and so is off limits...same for a stadium owned by a district...or a lawn mower shed, for that matter...ain't worth the hassle...(bugs them Ainglish teachers when I say ain't)...
However, you could make the argument that the school district HQ is off limits because the activities going on are always technically school events. A stadium may be leased for non-school related events and the definition of premises may not include the stadium since it is outside.
I am not saying you are wrong, but I think it is an interesting discussion. In addition, it may not be obvious to some people that the stadium is owned by the district. That being said, I think you must knowingly and/or recklessly carry to a school event to be considered guilty under the law.
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:45 am
by speedsix
...hmm...this calls for a lawyer...reckon where can we find one???
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:04 am
by KingofChaos
speedsix wrote:...hmm...this calls for a lawyer...reckon where can we find one???
Without any kind of case law, a lawyers opinion isn't much better than yours...
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:07 am
by speedsix
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:26 am
by ss1088
KingofChaos wrote:speedsix wrote:...hmm...this calls for a lawyer...reckon where can we find one???
Without any kind of case law, a lawyers opinion isn't much better than yours...
It seems that the interpretation of law enforcement is all that matters in this situation. They usually side with whatever gets them the arrest.
Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:26 pm
by speedsix
...you don't know the cops I know, then...the ones I know go with whatever causes the least amount of paperwork!!!

Re: Carrying at district owned stadium
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:34 pm
by KingofChaos
speedsix wrote:...you don't know the cops I know, then...the ones I know go with whatever causes the least amount of paperwork!!!

What this wise man said. My god-mother's a detective for HPD so I've managed to meet a lot of LEO. They all seem to genuinely hate paperwork.