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Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:20 pm
by car1911
After 5 yrs away, I finally have the chance to transfer back to Texas. i have a Montana CHL which is valid in TX. My question is does anyone know how I can go about getting a TX CHL with out going with out during the wait? Do I need to keep my residency in MT, get a TX non-resident, then establish TX residency and change my TX CHL? I can't get a MT non-resident before I leave because I'm still a MT resident. If I establish residency in TX right away, my MT CHL won't be valid and I won't be able to carry for a while. Any ideas are much appriciated. Thanks
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:38 pm
by C-dub
I'm not positive, but I think it could go like this.
1. Move to Texas.
2. Change MT license to non-resident. Watch out for school zones.
3. Apply for TX CHL. I think the six month residency requirement was removed.
4. Wait anywhere from 15 days to 6 months for plastic to arrive via snail mail.
Welcome to the forum and eventually, back to Texas.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:08 pm
by tacticool
I thought Montana didn't do nonresident licenses. If that's right, the easiest legal way is get a Texas CHL while you're still living in Montana. Then change your address on the Texas CHL after you move and get a Texas DL.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:19 pm
by car1911
[quote="tacticool"]I thought Montana didn't do nonresident licenses.
You are correct. Forgot about that for a minute when I was asking questions. How do I go about getting TX CHL while I'm still in MT?
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:54 pm
by Crossfire
car1911 wrote:How do I go about getting TX CHL while I'm still in MT?
Apply online for the Texas CHL
Come visit for a weekend.
Take the class.
Make sure to get fingerprints while you are here.
Get a non-resident Texas CHL in 60 days, or less.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:10 pm
by car1911
Crossfire, I may have to do it that way. Was hoping there would be a way to avoid the extra cost of a round trip. It isn't as much for a round trip ticket as I thought it would be though-around $350. I can't help but think about how much ammo that would buy though...or how much closer that would get me to my next gun.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:17 pm
by car1911
Came up w/ another solution, which may be the answer. I just did a web search and found an instructor in MT that gives the class for a UT non-resident permit which TX honors. If I can get that done, problem solved!
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:23 pm
by Oldgringo
car1911 wrote:Crossfire, I may have to do it that way. Was hoping there would be a way to avoid the extra cost of a round trip. It isn't as much for a round trip ticket as I thought it would be though-around $350. I can't help but think about how much ammo that would buy though...or how much closer that would get me to my next gun.
Your Montana CHL is recognized in Texas. Once you get set up in Texas, get the application/s, take the class, pay the various FEES and you're in business. BTW, a Texas CHL ain't cheap!
Look out for the "signs", Post Offices, school areas and churches.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:48 pm
by car1911
OldGringo, That was the other option. Only problem I see with that is the requirement to get a TX dl and vehicle registered within a fairly short time after moving. I guess I could just wait till the TX permit comes in then get TX dl.
It's not too bad with a DD-214. Only $20 more than MT plus training, which is close to the same. I don't remember TX giving a veteren discount 5+ yrs ago.
I've been reading alot about the signs on here. I never got around to getting my TX CWL when I lived there because of the cost. At least I can carry in church there now. Gotten used to that up here. And I can carry in resturants that serve alchol (minus proper signs of course) which I can't do in MT. Glad to see some things actually get better when they change the laws.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:08 pm
by Oldgringo
car1911 wrote:OldGringo, That was the other option. Only problem I see with that is the requirement to get a TX dl and vehicle registered within a fairly short time after moving. I guess I could just wait till the TX permit comes in then get TX dl.
It's not too bad with a DD-214. Only $20 more than MT plus training, which is close to the same. I don't remember TX giving a veteren discount 5+ yrs ago.
I've been reading alot about the signs on here. I never got around to getting my TX CWL when I lived there because of the cost. At least I can carry in church there now. Gotten used to that up here. And I can carry in resturants that serve alchol (minus proper signs of course) which I can't do in MT. Glad to see some things actually get better when they change the laws.
We've moved a lot over my somewhat checkered career and I think all states require vehicle registration after 30 days (+/-) of residency. Check it out and good luck.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:32 pm
by punkndisorderly
The Utah license probably will be a no-go. They no longer issue licenses to non-residents unless you have property there, I believe. This is fairly recent.
I must be missing something. If you chl is good in texas, then just use it until you become a resident. Once you get your texas driver's license and registration, then get your Texas CHL and you're fully swapped over.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:59 pm
by apostate
punkndisorderly wrote:The Utah license probably will be a no-go. They no longer issue licenses to non-residents unless you have property there, I believe. This is fairly recent.
What's your source for that?
punkndisorderly wrote:I must be missing something. If you chl is good in texas, then just use it until you become a resident. Once you get your texas driver's license and registration, then get your Texas CHL and you're fully swapped over.
Suppose he becomes a Texas resident on 9/1. It may take a while before DPS issues his CHL. In the meantime, it looks like his Montana license wouldn't be valid because he's no longer a Montana resident.
Practically speaking, I believe he has a 90 day grace period before he has to get a Texas DL (Texas Transportation Code 521.029) and it's unlikely Montana will find out he's a Texas resident until he surrenders his MT DL. However, technically speaking, he's no longer a MT resident after he moves, no matter if he gets a TX DL on Day 1 or Day 90 as a Texas resident.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:39 am
by Jumping Frog
punkndisorderly wrote:The Utah license probably will be a no-go. They no longer issue licenses to non-residents unless you have property there, I believe. This is fairly recent.
Not accurate.
They issue a license to non-residents, but if the non-resident lives in a state that issues concealed carry licenses and has reciprocity with Utah, then the person must first be licensed in the home state before getting the UT as a secondary license.
If you are certain that your MT license will be revoked, a better alternative than a UT license would be to get an AZ license now. UT requires you take UT training. AZ will accept your MT license as proof of training.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:07 am
by quidni
apostate wrote:Practically speaking, I believe he has a 90 day grace period before he has to get a Texas DL (Texas Transportation Code 521.029)
Correct as far as the DL goes:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLice ... otexas.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
New residents moving into Texas, who are at least 16 years or older and have a valid driver license from another state, have 90 days after entry into the state to secure a Texas Driver License. All out-of-state applicants must visit a Texas Driver License office to present and complete the following:
1. Complete the requirements for an original applicant.
2. If you have a VALID out-of-state license in your possession, please bring it to the driver license office to surrender. The written and driving examinations will be waived, but you must still pass a vision exam.
3. If you have a VALID out-of-state driver license, or a VALID out-of-country driver license from France, Canada, or Germany, in your possession, please bring it to the driver license office to surrender. The written and driving examinations will be waived, but you must still pass a vision exam.
However, I'm not sure how that will affect his ability to obtain a TX CHL in the meantime.
Re: Moving back home
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:12 am
by car1911
Jumping Frog, Just did a web search on AZ non-resident permit. Thanks for the info. That sounds like the way to go and is the most cost effective since I have a MT chl. Not reconized in CO but my MT chl is so I'm covered all the way around and won't have to go "naked" for any lenth of time once I get to TX. Thanks again for what looks to be the answer.