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I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:09 pm
by PappaGun
I have never been to the UK.

This article is really disheartening.

I will be danged if I will ever give up my guns if any confiscation is ever attempted in this country.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... lenews_wsj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:14 pm
by fishman
Makes me want to say God bless the USA!!

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:44 pm
by C-dub
Looks like it's time to buy stock in Easton and Louisville Slugger.

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:18 pm
by PappaGun
AndyC wrote:There are two paragraphs there and half a sentence - anybody know where we can read the whole thing without buying a subscription to the WSJ?
Sorry. It worked the first time.

Search Joyce Malcolm, Wall Street Journal and I think you will find it.

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:03 pm
by Pawpaw
PappaGun wrote:
AndyC wrote:There are two paragraphs there and half a sentence - anybody know where we can read the whole thing without buying a subscription to the WSJ?
Sorry. It worked the first time.

Search Joyce Malcolm, Wall Street Journal and I think you will find it.
That worked. Here is the first hit:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 80574.html

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:27 pm
by txjim42
C-dub wrote:Looks like it's time to buy stock in Easton and Louisville Slugger.
Might want to wait and see if they outlaw baseball bats first... And then commission special bat-toting police officers with "Batman" badges. ;)

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:19 pm
by A-R
:woohoo
Pawpaw wrote:
PappaGun wrote:
AndyC wrote:There are two paragraphs there and half a sentence - anybody know where we can read the whole thing without buying a subscription to the WSJ?
Sorry. It worked the first time.

Search Joyce Malcolm, Wall Street Journal and I think you will find it.
That worked. Here is the first hit:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 80574.html
I still get only first few paragraphs

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:33 pm
by speedsix
...in WWII, England feared invasion...and was, because of their idiotic gun laws, woefully underarmed...like always, the US stepped up, and organized a gun drive here...folks donated anything from a single barrelled shotgun to their fine trap and skeet guns, rifles, handguns, you name it...and thousands were shipped over and distributed to arm the British citizens...as soon as the war was over, they made a big to-do about rounding them all up, sailing them out to sea, and dumping them...they get what they deserve, no help from anyone...they made their bed...

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:48 am
by speedsix
...the people coulda told the gov't what to do...after all, we showed 'em a PRETTY GOOD example awhile back!!! ;-)

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:01 am
by Pawpaw
It's doing the same thing to be this morning. It worked perfectly last night.

It must have something to do with getting there thru Google.

Try the first link in this Google search:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=c ... et+Journal

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:21 am
by A-R
Pawpaw wrote:It's doing the same thing to be this morning. It worked perfectly last night.

It must have something to do with getting there thru Google.

Try the first link in this Google search:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=c ... et+Journal

That worked. Thanks :tiphat:

Re: I knew England was bad but...

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:07 am
by VMI77
Banning guns doesn't eliminate criminal behavior, it just leaves those who aren't criminals defenseless when the criminals turn to other weapons --which is so obvious the result has to be a deliberate objective of the anti-gun crowd. I read the other day that there are 5,000 stabbings a year now in the UK, but in looking for other sources, it appears this number is way low:

http://www.insight-security.com/facts-k ... -stats.htm

As an example, based on one survey, a worst case projection indicates that 60,000 young people (predominantly male) may be stabbed and injured in the UK each year, whilst a rather more conservative estimate could be 22,000. The discrepancy in the two figures should not really be surprising as the figures were derived from the questioning of around 600 under 25 year olds, who were asked whether they had been knifed or stabbed, and then extrapolated to provide a "National Statistic" (Governments Offending, Crime and Justice Survey - OCJS).

And these stabbings all occur in spite of this (also an obvious result --that such laws are meaningless to the lawless):

"...the carrying of any knife other than a folding pocket knife with a blade length of less than 3" is illegal in the UK."

Look at some of the other statistics given, for instance: homicides more than tripled since 1965; 30% of pupils in London schools carry knives; 46% of 15-17 year olds carry knives for self-defense; and a 60% increase in recorded knife-carrying incidents in six years.