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Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:52 pm
by TexasAggie09
I tried researching this in the 2011 legislative session board but couldn't find it definitively. Are employees of oil field service companies in texas prevented by law from carrying in vehicle on...company office property? What about at actual drill sites? I know company policy can prevent it but in the absence of that, what does the law say? I swear I recall hearing something about it with the updated law...

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:02 pm
by jocat54
When I worked the oilfields all most everyone had a gun of some sorts, but that was a long time ago and times have changed. I have never read a law pertient to the oilfields but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Looking forward to other replies.

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:43 pm
by SwimFan85
TexasAggie09 wrote:I tried researching this in the 2011 legislative session board but couldn't find it definitively. Are employees of oil field service companies in texas prevented by law from carrying in vehicle on...company office property? What about at actual drill sites? I know company policy can prevent it but in the absence of that, what does the law say? I swear I recall hearing something about it with the updated law...
Unless the company or landowner gives 30.06 notice, it's not against the law. Oil companies are no different than computer companies except for the parking lot loophole.

Federally controlled constitution-free zones like post offices and marine facilities are a different ball of wax.

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:58 pm
by Pug
:iagree: No posting, no prohibition.

I began carrying due to visits to the oil field in Oklahoma. On two separate occasions we have driven to a lease only to find theiving scavangers stealing pipe, cable, valves, fuel, etc. to sell for scrap. On one occasion the theives were armed (rifles in their truck). It has not occurred again since getting my CHL, and I hope it never does.
:nono:

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:40 pm
by bkj
As I read the new law if you work at a chemical plant, refinery or other facility and park inside the security fence you cannot have your gun. At an office you can have it in the car. After sept. 1st

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:37 pm
by TexasAggie09
bkj wrote:As I read the new law if you work at a chemical plant, refinery or other facility and park inside the security fence you cannot have your gun. At an office you can have it in the car. After sept. 1st
Yes, thank you, that was what I thought I read but I couldn't remember. Good to know I'm not going crazy! Thanks for the input yall!

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:39 pm
by apostate
bkj wrote:As I read the new law if you work at a chemical plant, refinery or other facility and park inside the security fence you cannot have your gun. At an office you can have it in the car. After sept. 1st
Cite please. I don't see that in the new law.

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:46 pm
by TexasAggie09
apostate wrote:
bkj wrote:As I read the new law if you work at a chemical plant, refinery or other facility and park inside the security fence you cannot have your gun. At an office you can have it in the car. After sept. 1st
Cite please. I don't see that in the new law.
Found it:
Sec. 52.062. EXCEPTIONS. (a) Section 52.061 does not:
..
(2) apply to:
...
(F) property owned or leased by a chemical
manufacturer or oil and gas refiner with an air authorization under
Chapter 382, Health and Safety Code, and on which the primary
business conducted is the manufacture, use, storage, or
transportation of hazardous, combustible, or explosive materials,
except in regard to an employee who holds a license to carry a
concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and who stores a firearm or ammunition the employee is authorized by
law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a
parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area the employer
provides for employees that is outside of a secured and restricted
area:
(i) that contains the physical plant;
(ii) that is not open to the public; and
(iii) the ingress into which is constantly
monitored by security personnel.

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:53 pm
by apostate
That means those companies are exempt from Sec. 52.061, Labor Code, under those circumstances. It doesn't create an offense under Sec. 46.03 or 46.035, Penal Code, for guns in cars.

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:17 pm
by JKTex
apostate wrote:
bkj wrote:As I read the new law if you work at a chemical plant, refinery or other facility and park inside the security fence you cannot have your gun. At an office you can have it in the car. After sept. 1st
Cite please. I don't see that in the new law.
Really? You've never heard of the Employer parking lot bill?

BTW, as for the "at the office....after Sept 1" it only applies if the employer has restricted it in the past. If they didn't, nothing changes, but employees are protected, as are employers.

Re: Oil Field Parking Lot Carry

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:20 pm
by apostate
JKTex wrote:Really? You've never heard of the Employer parking lot bill?
Please see the message immediately before yours.