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Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay"
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:42 am
by Medic624
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:53 am
by AEA
As corrupt as the Mexican Govt. is, I'm betting they are dropping drugs inside US borders.
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:54 am
by mamabearCali
GRRRR! You know if this was done to any other country anywhere else and it was not a joint mission there would be screaming and war threats. But because it is the US and the Washington Elite don't give a rats tail about our nations security when it comes to the borders this is just shrugged off.

Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:10 am
by Heartland Patriot
mamabearCali wrote:GRRRR! You know if this was done to any other country anywhere else and it was not a joint mission there would be screaming and war threats. But because it is the US and the Washington Elite don't give a rats tail about our nations security when it comes to the borders this is just shrugged off.

Anywhere else, it would be a diplomatic incident at best, and possibly an act of war...and for anyone who would say that the Mexican aircraft just "strayed" onto the US side, well they have little to no knowledge of flying...and besides, its kind of hard to miss seeing the RIVER...I hope and pray that next year, the despicable regime now occupying the White House will be packing their bags for the trip back to Chicagoland...
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:21 am
by marinemom
first they allow Mexican Police to walk across border. now they FLY over..
then there is the news article about watching out for terrorist acts with SMALL
planes of helocopters???
this is insane
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:25 am
by Heartland Patriot
Next year, EVERY VOTE MATTERS. If you don't like what is going on, go vote. And yes, a lesser of the evils system stinks, but for now it is the system we have...hold your nose, pull the lever (or press the button, etc) and send this crew in the WH packing.

Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:09 am
by puma guy
AEA wrote:As corrupt as the Mexican Govt. is, I'm betting they are dropping drugs inside US borders.
Don't count out a terrorist using a Mexican aircraft for an attack.
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:33 am
by MadMonkey
This has been happening a lot. Makes me wonder, honestly... will we eventually get used to Mexican troops across the border, and then....?
*tinfoil hat*
Makes me nervous though since I'm currently 3 miles from the Mexican border

Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:53 am
by Medic624
And yet the administration sided with Mexico AGAINST Arizona. This WH allowed the President of Mexico to stand in our Capital and berate the US citizens of Arizona calling them racist for wanting to secure and protect our borders. What did this regime do??? Sided yet again with other foreign nationals calling us radicals and racist.
How did this not make national news and be treated as a hostile act the "second" time the MISTAKE occurred?!?
Just sayin'
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:46 pm
by cougartex
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:51 pm
by Ameer
It shows how much Obama really cares about the safety of American citizens. Bush too when you think about it.
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:30 pm
by n5wd
One of the reasons (not cited in the referenced article, but mentioned in another professional publication that I occasionally read) is that the Mexican side is so notoriously sprinkled with "spotters", people who are paid to report any state or federal judicial police ( the national police) or military movements to their cartel's intelligence network, that it's almost impossible for the Mexican government to launch a raid on the narcos without it being burned beforehand. Launching a raid from the US side of the border makes it less likely that the raid will be reported as they're getting together - much like our police usually gather several blocks, or even miles, away from a raid to gather everyone, final brief, and jump off towards the raid's location, making the raid more effective - something I'd think we, on this side of the Rio Grande, would appreciate.
And, for those of you who don't understand that the US military has done much the same thing, thousands of times- it may seem like something new. But, it's not. (Was personally involved in border incursions in Cambodia in 1970 - nah, we weren't there!) This time, it just happens to be our border that's being used, something that we in the United States aren't used to.
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:21 pm
by Medic624
n5wd wrote:One of the reasons (not cited in the referenced article, but mentioned in another professional publication that I occasionally read) is that the Mexican side is so notoriously sprinkled with "spotters", people who are paid to report any state or federal judicial police ( the national police) or military movements to their cartel's intelligence network, that it's almost impossible for the Mexican government to launch a raid on the narcos without it being burned beforehand. Launching a raid from the US side of the border makes it less likely that the raid will be reported as they're getting together - much like our police usually gather several blocks, or even miles, away from a raid to gather everyone, final brief, and jump off towards the raid's location, making the raid more effective - something I'd think we, on this side of the Rio Grande, would appreciate.
And, for those of you who don't understand that the US military has done much the same thing, thousands of times- it may seem like something new. But, it's not. (Was personally involved in border incursions in Cambodia in 1970 - nah, we weren't there!) This time, it just happens to be our border that's being used, something that we in the United States aren't used to.
Thank you for the well thought out and informative reply... It seems very plausible but if this is the case then what would be the harm in our intelligence agency(ies) simply saying, "Hey this is a way to catch them off their game and it is a joint concerted effort to reduce the efficacy of the cartels ability to operate from Mexican border towns". It's not like after they used this tactic a few times it wasn't recognized... A helicopter with big ol' Federales on the side kinda gives it away. Plus I think just the thought of what may be construed as another blurring of the border with Mexico I can say causes my stomach to knot up just a little. Heck I wouldn't want my neighbor hanging out in my yard even if it was to sneak up and kill a mole without my knowledge or explicit permission.
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:06 am
by bnc
n5wd wrote:And, for those of you who don't understand that the US military has done much the same thing, thousands of times- it may seem like something new. But, it's not. (Was personally involved in border incursions in Cambodia in 1970 - nah, we weren't there!) This time, it just happens to be our border that's being used, something that we in the United States aren't used to.
All the more reason not to do it to other countries' borders as nobody likes trespassers.
Medic624 wrote:Plus I think just the thought of what may be construed as another blurring of the border with Mexico I can say causes my stomach to knot up just a little.
We'll get acclimated t it, just like we have with everything else. It is not like we can do anything about it and the government won't, so it shall continue.
Re: Mexican military flies over Texas. US says, "that's okay
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:22 am
by Oldgringo
The Mexican air force over the border is not the problem; afterall, that border is crossed thousands of times a day in BOTH directions by land vehicles at manned border stations. A problem is the foot traffic at non-manned border stations. The real problem is the elected government's fear (both parties) of alienating the hispanic vote.
The Oldgringo said that.