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Just wondering what happens IF CHL involved in auto accident. This is a two part question.
1. Injured, but conscious, yet requires EMS transport. 2. Injured, unconscious, requires EMS transport.
What do I do with my guns? Can I ask LEO to take possession of them? Will LEO take possession of them?
I would hope they never allow them to go with the tow to the impound yard...
Thanks guys.

If it's on you the EMT's can and will handle it, but I would be sure to tell them if you're conscious or the police if they arrive first. I remember reading here somewhere, probably from one of the EMT's here, that they've done this before. They will make sure you get it back.

marful wrote:Can I ask LEO to take possession of them?

Not if you're:

marful wrote:2. Injured, unconscious, requires EMS transport.

If you're conscious, I'd tell them about it and if you're not emergent, they'll get local law enforcement to come on scene first and secure it. If you are emergent or unconscious, we have specific protocols for what to do in this situation. My department says if no law enforcement is on scene and we must leave to transport, one of us will secure the weapon (not necessarily fiddle with unloading it) in an external compartment on either the ambulance or, if one is on scene, a fire engine, and LOCK the compartment. We then call local law enforcement while en route and tell them where the firearm is and all that. No big deal. It's not your fault you're unconscious and it won't raise any eyebrows.

TexasAggie09 wrote:If you're conscious, I'd tell them about it and if you're not emergent, they'll get local law enforcement to come on scene first and secure it. If you are emergent or unconscious, we have specific protocols for what to do in this situation. My department says if no law enforcement is on scene and we must leave to transport, one of us will secure the weapon (not necessarily fiddle with unloading it) in an external compartment on either the ambulance or, if one is on scene, a fire engine, and LOCK the compartment. We then call local law enforcement while en route and tell them where the firearm is and all that. No big deal. It's not your fault you're unconscious and it won't raise any eyebrows.

Dallas Fire-Rescue carries hard cases. If unconscious and found during transport or treatment, it is documented, locked in the case and kept in the MICU under positive control of one or both medics. Then it is turned over to PD at the hospital (All ERs have some kind of LEO on duty). If time permits on scene then LEO gets it, but we have to document officer and badge number.

marful wrote:Just wondering what happens IF CHL involved in auto accident. This is a two part question.
1. Injured, but conscious, yet requires EMS transport. 2. Injured, unconscious, requires EMS transport.
What do I do with my guns? Can I ask LEO to take possession of them? Will LEO take possession of them?

I think you'll find, like the guys before have mentioned, that most agencies have some sort of standing rule to deal with guns. At MedStar in Fort Worth, it was (a) if the patient isn't emergent and if a cop is around, let him acquire and secure the weapon... (b) otherwise, stow it in a secure drawer (usually the one the narcs are stored in) and give it to the cops after you deliver the patient to the ER.

Believe me, a medic discovering, or a patient announcing, that there's a gun isn't all that uncommon - about the only time it becomes an issue is if a patient is reluctant to give it up. Then, it's un-ass the MICU and let the poh-leece deal with the person.