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Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:27 pm
by Thomas
A woman jokingly told a 10 year old kid she was going to take his candy, he responded by pulling a gun on her and saying, "No you're not."

Apparently the gun was unloaded, but the boy did have a loaded magazine (article says "clip") in his possession.

Another boy also had a gun. Both guns were obtained from their grandfather without permission.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-new ... -pulls-gun

Moral of the Story: Make sure you and your family members' guns are stored safely!

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:32 pm
by Oldgringo
Thomas wrote:A woman jokingly told a 10 year old kid she was going to take his candy, he responded by pulling a gun on her and saying, "No you're not."

Apparently the gun was unloaded, but the boy did have a loaded magazine (article says "clip") in his possession.

Another boy also had a gun. Both guns were obtained from their grandfather without permission.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-new ... -pulls-gun

Moral of the Story: Make sure you and your family members' guns are stored safely!
I differ. Make sure that your kids are beat within an inch of their lifes for stealing and not doing as they were taught. They weren't taught..oh my?

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:39 pm
by Thomas
Oldgringo wrote:
Thomas wrote:A woman jokingly told a 10 year old kid she was going to take his candy, he responded by pulling a gun on her and saying, "No you're not."

Apparently the gun was unloaded, but the boy did have a loaded magazine (article says "clip") in his possession.

Another boy also had a gun. Both guns were obtained from their grandfather without permission.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-new ... -pulls-gun

Moral of the Story: Make sure you and your family members' guns are stored safely!
I differ. Make sure that your kids are beat within an inch of their lifes for stealing and not doing as they were taught. They weren't taught..oh my?
Agreed. But they might have a friend over that doesn't know any better.

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:54 pm
by n5wd
Thomas wrote:Agreed. But they might have a friend over that doesn't know any better.
We didn't have any guns around the house while my son was growing up, but one thing we did have that often drew the curiosity of his friends was my ham radios. But, he knew that if one of his friends messed around with the radio when I wasn't around, or did something that got me a citation by the feds, it would have been his responsibility since he invited the kiddoh's over.

Even young kids can learn not to let visitors mess with things that are off-limits.

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:59 am
by RPB
So, the woman is teaching
1) It's ok to hand a bank teller a note that you are robbing them, because you can claim it was just a joke if you get caught
2) bullying those smaller less able to defend them selves is acceptable


How much time did she get?


Good that the kid only used force and not deadly force, restraining himself to only that which was necessary
Perhaps in the 1700s I'd have commended the kid more for repelling an attacking Indian, hopefully he could shoot a nose hair out of an attacker at 100 yards, since he could have had more practice time without an i-pod, i-pad, i-phone, TV.

Nowadays my 10-year old boy (if I had one) wouldn't be armed with a gun, but probably would carry a knife and displaying it to repel a robbery threat (not sticking/stabbing if all that was required was displaying it, but displaying it to prevent a robber,) would be fine in my mind.
Robbery/kidnapping/threatening kids(who aren't yours)etc isn't a joke.

Moral of the Story: Adults like that woman probably joke about bombs in the Airport lines and need counseling

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:02 am
by Oldgringo
n5wd wrote:
Thomas wrote:Agreed. But they might have a friend over that doesn't know any better.
We didn't have any guns around the house while my son was growing up, but one thing we did have that often drew the curiosity of his friends was my ham radios. But, he knew that if one of his friends messed around with the radio when I wasn't around, or did something that got me a citation by the feds, it would have been his responsibility since he invited the kiddoh's over.

Even young kids can learn not to let visitors mess with things that are off-limits.
It's called "accountability".

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:03 am
by Oldgringo
RPB wrote:So, the woman is teaching
1) It's ok to hand a bank teller a note that you are robbing them, because you can claim it was just a joke if you get caught
2) bullying those smaller less able to defend them selves is acceptable


How much time did she get?


Good that the kid only used force and not deadly force, restraining himself to only that which was necessary
Perhaps in the 1700s I'd have commended the kid more for repelling an attacking Indian, hopefully he could shoot a nose hair out of an attacker at 100 yards, since he could have had more practice time without an i-pod, i-pad, i-phone, TV.

Nowadays my 10-year old boy (if I had one) wouldn't be armed with a gun, but probably would carry a knife and displaying it to repel a robbery threat (not sticking/stabbing if all that was required was displaying it, but displaying it to prevent a robber,) would be fine in my mind.
Robbery/kidnapping/threatening kids(who aren't yours)etc isn't a joke.
:roll:

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:23 am
by RPB
Oldgringo wrote:
RPB wrote:So, the woman is teaching
1) It's ok to hand a bank teller a note that you are robbing them, because you can claim it was just a joke if you get caught
2) bullying those smaller less able to defend them selves is acceptable


How much time did she get?


Good that the kid only used force and not deadly force, restraining himself to only that which was necessary
Perhaps in the 1700s I'd have commended the kid more for repelling an attacking Indian, hopefully he could shoot a nose hair out of an attacker at 100 yards, since he could have had more practice time without an i-pod, i-pad, i-phone, TV.

Nowadays my 10-year old boy (if I had one) wouldn't be armed with a gun, but probably would carry a knife and displaying it to repel a robbery threat (not sticking/stabbing if all that was required was displaying it, but displaying it to prevent a robber,) would be fine in my mind.
Robbery/kidnapping/threatening kids(who aren't yours)etc isn't a joke.
:roll:
I carried a knife at ten.... actually when I was 6
Jungle Jim and Tarzan showed how to take care of an alligator/croc which might attack me.

I learned not to swim out into the grass and stab the lawn with a regular folding knife.... and I learned the difference in a "regular folding knife" and a "LOCK blade" ... I have a scar to remind me.

Blake and I would go hunting down at the ditch (bow and arrow or pellet/BB guns) and get rabbits, crawdads, frogs and turtles for lunch.... we didn't have a Wiii to practice on. this was out in the Country, Miles from the big city of Houston, in a little town named Bellaire, Texas (now inside loop 610 close to Beechnut/Meyerland)

You'd need that knife to field dress your catch so mom would fix them

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:53 am
by RoyGBiv
RPB wrote:So, the woman is teaching
1) It's ok to hand a bank teller a note that you are robbing them, because you can claim it was just a joke if you get caught
2) bullying those smaller less able to defend them selves is acceptable


How much time did she get?


Good that the kid only used force and not deadly force, restraining himself to only that which was necessary
Perhaps in the 1700s I'd have commended the kid more for repelling an attacking Indian, hopefully he could shoot a nose hair out of an attacker at 100 yards, since he could have had more practice time without an i-pod, i-pad, i-phone, TV.

Nowadays my 10-year old boy (if I had one) wouldn't be armed with a gun, but probably would carry a knife and displaying it to repel a robbery threat (not sticking/stabbing if all that was required was displaying it, but displaying it to prevent a robber,) would be fine in my mind.
Robbery/kidnapping/threatening kids(who aren't yours)etc isn't a joke.

Moral of the Story: Adults like that woman probably joke about bombs in the Airport lines and need counseling
Interesting to look at it from this perspective... Not that I agree... but.. Thanks.

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:26 pm
by bayouhazard
A gun might be appropriate if someone larger than you threatens to rob you, even if the larger person is unarmed.

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:20 pm
by RoyGBiv
bayouhazard wrote:A gun might be appropriate if someone larger than you threatens to rob you, even if the larger person is unarmed.
Bruce Lee was not so big.
Chuck Norris is a head shorter than me.

Perception will score you points with a jury, if you're alive.

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:45 pm
by RPB
I don't know all the facts in that one situation, but it's not good to send a message that it's ok for stranger adults to threaten kids with illegal activity, (or anyone, but with kids, it's bullying)

I mean if it was an older man telling a younger girl he was going to put her in his car and do illegal stuff, the people would have probably taken a different position about her displaying a knife/weapon to thwart an illegal activity...

just sayin'

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:50 am
by Maxwell
As I tell my Godsons: My house my rules. That's what my Gradfather tild me and I was also taught that I was responsible for anuone I brought into the house to follow ALL the rules, or else... :cryin

Re: Trick-or-Treater pulls gun on Woman

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:11 pm
by Lambda Force
"Don't worry. It will be like taking candy from a baby."