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B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:02 am
by matefrio
Starting a new club:

Being
Open
With
Illegal
Edges

Welcome to join, just post your experiences EDCing a knife of 5.6in or longer legally.

Going to start with a Walmart visit tonight then move on to dinner.

Companion is a PF9 in a Kloster

Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is carrying;


Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... /PE.46.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Description:
Overall Length: 14” Inches
Blade Length: 9” Inches
Handle Length: 5” Inches
Blade Material: 15N20 & 1095 Hand Forged Damascus
Handle: Premium Stage Horn
Bolster: Damascus Steel
Sheath: Fine Leather
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Walmart
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Some Friends at Walmart
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Ammo Prices
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Magazines
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Turkeys
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Crowds, I walked this isle 3x.
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Dinner Time
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Buffet, you didn't think I'd just sit on my foot did you?
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Food
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Liberal Haven
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Some Friends
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Magazine Selection Sucks
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Mirror Mirror on the wall, who has the sexiest knife of them all?
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Yep, call of nature was answered
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Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:05 am
by Carry-a-Kimber
IBTL

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:18 am
by iratollah
Oh goodie! Does this mean I can carry my switchblade and swordcane now? What about into places where firearms are prohibited?

BTW, do you visit that buffet often? Is it any good?

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:24 am
by matefrio
iratollah wrote:Oh goodie! Does this mean I can carry my switchblade and swordcane now? What about into places where firearms are prohibited?

BTW, do you visit that buffet often? Is it any good?
Switch blades are prohibited, so no they aren't exempt with a CHL and a handgun of the licensed type.

Sword cane, I honestly don't have a clue.

Slow night at the buffet, I like it but tonight the food wasn't very fresh. It's the first time I went on a Monday though.

I walked in walmart for over an hour reading magazines, even helped a guy on the phone trying to get his wife back on track somewhere in Oklahoma with a map, ate dinner for 45 ish min in a buffet getting up and down, got bored and did three laps around the inside of target and I didn't notice anything, not a thing, different about my night other than I was taking random pictures.

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:29 am
by Dave2
matefrio wrote:Starting a new club:

Being
Open
With
Illegal
Edges

Welcome to join, just post your experiences EDCing a knife of 5.6in or longer legally.
I'm confused... how do you legally carry something that's illegal to carry?

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:30 am
by matefrio
Dave2 wrote:
matefrio wrote:Starting a new club:

Being
Open
With
Illegal
Edges

Welcome to join, just post your experiences EDCing a knife of 5.6in or longer legally.
I'm confused... how do you legally carry something that's illegal to carry?
Same way folks shoot and own illegal machine guns in Texas. There are exemptions. See above for the law quoted in the OP.

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:32 am
by gigag04
In other news, I'm taking the wife to see the new Twilight tomorrow!


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Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:43 am
by apostate
gigag04 wrote:In other news, I'm taking the wife to see the new Twilight tomorrow!
Isn't that the movie about the high school girl who "dates" and eventually marries someone old enough to be her grandfather?

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:44 am
by mreavis
What exactly is this part qualifying?

"to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is carrying;"

That's the only part that concerns me about a clear exemption. Is it targeting only the handgun part?

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:46 am
by CC Italian
Yep. My better half went and saw it with her girlfriends. THANK GOD I missed that bullet! :lol:

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:47 am
by TheMilkMan
Perhaps this will get a negative response, but that section you copied in the OP reads that the exception lies in having the correct license for the weapon being carried. The only license you will get is a SA or NSA license so you can carry a Semi or Wheel (or both, or 5 of each). This exempts you from the restriction on handguns, not any illegal weapon. The H in CHL stands for Handgun.

Not trying to be rude and correct me if I'm wrong... (with further facts preferably to back it up :mrgreen: )

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:47 am
by iratollah
Ever since I stopped visiting the AYCE buffets I can carry IWB.

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:51 am
by matefrio
TheMilkMan wrote:Perhaps this will get a negative response, but that section you copied in the OP reads that the exception lies in having the correct license for the weapon being carried. The only license you will get is a SA or NSA license so you can carry a Semi or Wheel (or both, or 5 of each). This exempts you from the restriction on handguns, not any illegal weapon. The H in CHL stands for Handgun.

Not trying to be rude and correct me if I'm wrong... (with further facts preferably to back it up :mrgreen: )
And the C stands for Concealed. I'm clearly exempt though per state law. You may check, as I have, with a lawyer if you wish.

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:00 am
by mr surveyor
just an honest question.... do you happen to work for a mall?

Re: B.O.W.I.E. Club - EDCing of an Illegal Knife.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:04 am
by TheMilkMan
matefrio wrote: Being
Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the handgun the person is carrying;


Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club
Reading again I see that it can be interpenetrated to say that if you have a licensed gun on your and have your license on you, you can have a knife on you as well. It doesn't say "has the capacity to legally carry" it says "is carrying". So I suppose it is arguable that if you have a concealed handgun on you and a CHL you are good to go to throw on that big ol knife. That is less than clear in its intentions, and could use a revision to clearly define its purpose.

Anywho, aforementioned claim of illegality retracted due to lake of evidence. I wouldn't be surprised if a cop feels that this statute doesn't provide exemption however.