SB321, Labor Code 52.061 and 30.06
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:02 pm
OK, my subject line is for updating and understanding the possible skewing by some employers the differences in requirements between the different legal codes. I am referencing some of our discussions in previous threads here such as in viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48593&start=30" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; which was a discussion on mutli tennant offices etc. I had referenced what my parking lots had done back in that thread. Now today, I am posting a picture of our parking lot signs which recently went up and cover all of the lots at my work. Please read the words slowly and carefully as I scanned it first and mis-thought what it meant. It appears they have combined and intent of SB321 by referencing Labor Code 52.061 while referring to Subchapter H, subchapter 411 about licensed persons. Now as I read the sign it basically says "Hey we acknowledge if you can carry legally you can keep it in your car here" which is fine with me as that is all 52.061 covers and then exceptions in susequent parts of the labor code. No problem.
It is the very last part of the sign that gets me wondering. They state, "ONLY WHEN LOCKED IN A PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLE" which is fine. My thoughts go to our previous signs which were Standard 30.06. They covered only the main executives parking lot which controlled all accesses to the building as well. Therefore, you could not carry a weapon into the building either. Now these new signs are on all lots including the previous accessed controlled lot that HAD the standard 30.06 sign. Now I am not going to say I can carry a weapon into my building legally. The new signs don't stop me but with airport standard metal detector I go through everyday, will catch me and the security will tell me I can not come in. I know that for a fact because they make me show my cell phone when it sets it off. But HYPOTHETICALLY, I see no signs stopping me.
Therefore I question whether or not the property owner "THINKS" by saying "ONLY WHEN LOCKED IN A PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLE" makes them believe they have given the same effective notice as they did before with a 30.06 signs. My concern is someone coming into the building say from the visitors lot which has the present sign, goes through the access posted area and does not feel they are limited or prevented from entering because they are not given a 30.06 notice and then walk into a problem because of this new sign. Just asking for thoughts, comments or am I just a mistrusting person of company personnel because I think they are just not very smart. And no I am not thinking of asking security about it. Sleeping dogs and all but still I hate to see someone walk into a load of problems due a a misconception.
I personnally still have the question about my company policy who is a TENANT in the buidling who says no firearms and if 52.061 still covers me. But that is a different question than the 30.06 question above.
It is the very last part of the sign that gets me wondering. They state, "ONLY WHEN LOCKED IN A PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLE" which is fine. My thoughts go to our previous signs which were Standard 30.06. They covered only the main executives parking lot which controlled all accesses to the building as well. Therefore, you could not carry a weapon into the building either. Now these new signs are on all lots including the previous accessed controlled lot that HAD the standard 30.06 sign. Now I am not going to say I can carry a weapon into my building legally. The new signs don't stop me but with airport standard metal detector I go through everyday, will catch me and the security will tell me I can not come in. I know that for a fact because they make me show my cell phone when it sets it off. But HYPOTHETICALLY, I see no signs stopping me.
Therefore I question whether or not the property owner "THINKS" by saying "ONLY WHEN LOCKED IN A PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLE" makes them believe they have given the same effective notice as they did before with a 30.06 signs. My concern is someone coming into the building say from the visitors lot which has the present sign, goes through the access posted area and does not feel they are limited or prevented from entering because they are not given a 30.06 notice and then walk into a problem because of this new sign. Just asking for thoughts, comments or am I just a mistrusting person of company personnel because I think they are just not very smart. And no I am not thinking of asking security about it. Sleeping dogs and all but still I hate to see someone walk into a load of problems due a a misconception.
I personnally still have the question about my company policy who is a TENANT in the buidling who says no firearms and if 52.061 still covers me. But that is a different question than the 30.06 question above.