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Interesting Article on Black Friday gun sales

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:46 pm
by ELB
MSNBC runs an article on the Black Friday spike in NICS checks for firearms purchases. Some interesting quotes:
"Whereas five years ago it was politically incorrect (to own guns), ... what seems to be changing is social acceptance," said Bret Jordan, analyst at investment firm Avondale Partners. "I think there might be a changing view of firearms."

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More recently, though, the focus has switched to handguns. In spite of the economic downturn, "The category of firearm that has continued to sell very well is something one would have if they were concerned about their personal safety," Jordan said.

"The general trend is it's more socially acceptable to own a gun in the United States than it was five to six years ago," he said.



Not everyone is happy:
Caroline Brewer, director of communications at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, called the Black Friday surge a "one-time event." She said any increase in gun purchases "may be the result of marketing."
Translation: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

What really scares the Brady and MAIG types about HR 822 is not the reciprocity business -- that is good but doesn't make a big objective change in gun ownership or carrying. What scares them is it is another step towards normalizing the carry of guns in society by the good guys.

Oh, and there is a poll at the bottom of the article you need to go vote in...so you can see the results.
"Would you buy someone a firearm for Christmas?" Choices are: Sure, guns make a great present. No, isn't Christmas supposed to be about peace?

At least at the time I viewed it the results were....heh!

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Re: Interesting Article on Black Friday gun sales

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:15 pm
by mikeintexas
Surley MSN won't keep this poll up long. The "Guns are Great Gifts" is leading 79% to 21% against.

I can't even believe that MSN put in print, also, that owning and carrying handguns in now more PC than 5-6 years ago.

Re: Interesting Article on Black Friday gun sales

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:26 am
by rmr1923
ELB wrote: Not everyone is happy:
Caroline Brewer, director of communications at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, called the Black Friday surge a "one-time event." She said any increase in gun purchases "may be the result of marketing."
Translation: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

What really scares the Brady and MAIG types about HR 822 is not the reciprocity business -- that is good but doesn't make a big objective change in gun ownership or carrying. What scares them is it is another step towards normalizing the carry of guns in society by the good guys.
for the life of me i'll never understand how people can be delusional enough to believe that tighter gun regulations will somehow prevent criminals from acquiring guns. even if every gun in existence were destroyed, criminals would simply use another weapon. a gun is nothing more than a tool, how it's used is up to the individual that possesses it. people are killed by criminals with tire irons and baseball bats as well, but you don't see an outcry to ban those.

oh, and the poll is now 80/20 in favor of guns :cool:

Re: Interesting Article on Black Friday gun sales

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:07 pm
by wharvey
Voting seems to be turned off already. But considering about 100K voted and the results were still about 80 to 20 percent I bet many of the antigun big shots are having nightmares.

Re: Interesting Article on Black Friday gun sales

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:54 pm
by StewNTexas
This same Brady bunch would also believe that making it much more difficult to buy a car would do a lot to reduce drunk driving.

Re: Interesting Article on Black Friday gun sales

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:42 pm
by EconDoc
Let's get real here. The rhetoric about "reducing crime" is nothing more than propaganda to fool the gullible. The real reason why leaders want to eliminate civilian ownership of firearms is to facilitate much greater control over ordinary people--all for the fun and profit of the "leaders". Weapons prohibitions have a long history that dates back to Bible times (the Philistines forbade Israel to have blacksmiths or weapons during the Philistine rule over Israel prior to the days of King David), if not before. The same things happened during the Tokagawa Shogunate in Japan. It is always, in the end, about allowing an elite to have control over an unarmed peasantry so that those peasants can be much more easily exploited for the profit of that small, elite minority. In this country, gun laws have disarmed freed slaves under Jim Crow and made sure that only Tammany Hall thugs had guns on election day, the better to intimidate opposition voters. Also, Medieval serfs were mostly unarmed so that their lords could better exploit them.

:patriot: :txflag:

Re: Interesting Article on Black Friday gun sales

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:59 pm
by The Annoyed Man
2 years ago, I bought my son a Red Rider BB gun..... AND an M1A Loaded for Christmas. Don't tell him (he doesn't read these pages, so I'm safe), but this Christmas just might find a Remington 11-87 under the tree for him—unless he misbehaves, in which case he'll get a lump of coal.

Re: Interesting Article on Black Friday gun sales

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:35 pm
by rm9792
The Annoyed Man wrote:2 years ago, I bought my son a Red Rider BB gun..... AND an M1A Loaded for Christmas. Don't tell him (he doesn't read these pages, so I'm safe), but this Christmas just might find a Remington 11-87 under the tree for him—unless he misbehaves, in which case he'll get a lump of coal.
I saw him the other day and he was being real bad! Can I have it?