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Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:20 pm
by beefmobile
Hi guys, I have found myself in a dilemma. I wont name the companies i work for, but i can describe the situation. I am a contractor and am employed as a network engineer. I work for a 'Company A' that permanently contracts me out to 'Company B'. I am technically employed by Company A, but i do not work for them on a daily basis. I permanently work at Company B's location, which is a large office building. For factual purposes, the companies physical location's are in different counties and have no physical connection. There are no signs banning licensed concealed carry at Company B's location. However, i was informed by a friend of mine here (also a CHL holder, that carries daily here at Company B) today that, technically, in the rules and regulations for Company A, it states that employees are not allowed to carry dangerous or offensive weapons. I have not verified that, i will look though the rulebook later this evening when i get home. But....the question is, even if the rules and regulations set for the employees do in fact state that we cannot carry weapons, does that prohibit me ( a CHL holder) from carrying on Company B's location?

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:35 pm
by speedsix
...there are two things to be considered: what's legal (are you breaking a law) is one of them...laws and signs...

...the other part of "Can I", even if it's legal, deals with whether you keep your job or not...are you (A) going to comply with the employee handbook rules and make your employer happy or (B) carry concealed, be safer, and keep that info strictly to yourself, where the only way you'll ever be found out is if you have to use it...(with a remote chance of an event where you have a stroke and are unconscious and are discovered as they do first aid...)

...some employee handbooks are specific to the company property...the office...some include the company vehicles...some specify "while representing the company or on any company business"....I'd start with the specific wording of the rules they publish and/or have you sign acknowledging receipt of...and go from there...are you in fact an employee...or a subcontractor working for Co.A on a project for Co.B???? Sadly enough, in Texas, even if you're not an employee, they may have the option of voiding your contract as a sub-contractor just like they can fire you...read your contract and all related materials...if you're an employee...and they find you out, you can be fired (for whatever they write down as the reason)...

...it's a simple thing to carry concealed LEGALLY and keep the lips pressed tightly together for 20 years...and never have a problem...if ONE co-worker or customer is aware...and they have an axe to grind...the jig's up~~~

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:06 pm
by smtimelevi
Sounds like your companies rules are intentionally vague. If there's no signage or specific prohibitions at the jobsite I wouldnt worry about your employer. Don't let anybody know you carry and keep it hidden and you shouldnt have problems since you arent working directly for your employer on their location. Worst case if you get busted you loose your job, all the more reason to keep quiet and keep concealed.

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:01 pm
by gigag04
Giuna are not more or less dangerous than cars or refrigerators.

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:19 pm
by tbrown
That doesn't sound like 30.06 notice. They can fire you but in Texas an employer can fire you for any of millions of reasons, from being late for work to short selling company stock, as long as the reason isn't prohibited by law, or your employment contract if you have one. .

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:59 am
by RPB
Is the exact required 30.06 language printed in the employee handbook?
Are there 30.06 signs?

If no to both above ... and if co-worker wasn't a supervisor giving "oral notice NOT to carry"

Then you should be legal, but you could be fired I suppose.

I ain't a lawyer.
employees are not allowed to carry dangerous or offensive weapons.
offensive?
Soooo no stink bombs?
Scissors are a dangerous weapon in Australia ...

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:18 am
by The Annoyed Man
employees are not allowed to carry dangerous or offensive weapons.
What about defensive weapons that are not dangerous except to the person against whom they are used?

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:43 pm
by Katygunnut
As others have said, it does not look like it would be illegal to carry at your job.

You can be fired for any reason the employer wishes, as long as it is not one of the few listed reasons that are protected by law. The employer's rules regarding weapons don't change this. In other words, they can still fire you if they want to regardless of any rules that they state regarding weapons, or anything else. By the same token, you can fire your employer (i.e. quit your job) for any reason you choose. Heck, you can even terminate the employment relationship for a reason that is prohibited for your employer (e.g. you don't like the employer's race, religion, etc).

Ain't life grand?

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:40 pm
by MasterOfNone
The Annoyed Man wrote:
employees are not allowed to carry dangerous or offensive weapons.
What about defensive weapons that are not dangerous except to the person against whom they are used?
I'm thinking the only dangerous gun is one that is in the hands of a bad or incompetent person. And the only offensive one is a pink one. :leaving

Re: Can I Carry At My Job?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:10 pm
by Kythas
You're an employee of Company A. You must abide by Company A's policies.

Typically, also, when in a situation like that your employer (Company A) also requires you to abide by the same employee policies of the companies at which they place you. So you must abide by the policies of Company A AND Company B.

In my job I often must go on-site to client locations. While there, I am expected by my company to abide by their employee policies the same as if I were an employee there. I must conform to their dress code, etc.

Sounds like you may be in a similar situation.