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National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:58 pm
by Salty1
I am wondering if the Senate will even take this Bill up for a vote. Not very long ago the NRA was backing Harry Reid and after the uproar from members they dropped their public support for him. Below is a public statement on Reid's website.

Statement of Reid campaign manager Brandon Hall on NRA endorsement in Nevada US Senate race

"The NRA’s relationship with Sen. Reid has been long-standing and productive and – unlike for Sharron Angle – they’ve put their money where their mouth is this cycle. Along with their financial support, the declaration of NRA head Wayne LaPierre that Sen. Reid is 'a true champion of the Second Amendment' and that 'no one has been a stronger advocate for responsible gun ownership than him' shows beyond a doubt that the NRA believes Sen. Reid to be a strong advocate for Nevadans’ Second Amendment rights in the US Senate."

Now that the Bill is ultimatly in the Senate's hands will Reid stand up and bring it to a vote and twist arms the way he has with other legislation that he and the Dem's deemed important or will he just keep taking NRA money and let it die a slow death? We will hopefully find out who actually believes in the Constitution and who believes in politics over everything else....

Re: National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:04 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Salty1 wrote:I am wondering if the Senate will even take this Bill up for a vote. Not very long ago the NRA was backing Harry Reid and after the uproar from members they dropped their public support for him. Below is a public statement on Reid's website.

Statement of Reid campaign manager Brandon Hall on NRA endorsement in Nevada US Senate race

"The NRA’s relationship with Sen. Reid has been long-standing and productive and – unlike for Sharron Angle – they’ve put their money where their mouth is this cycle. Along with their financial support, the declaration of NRA head Wayne LaPierre that Sen. Reid is 'a true champion of the Second Amendment' and that 'no one has been a stronger advocate for responsible gun ownership than him' shows beyond a doubt that the NRA believes Sen. Reid to be a strong advocate for Nevadans’ Second Amendment rights in the US Senate."

Now that the Bill is ultimatly in the Senate's hands will Reid stand up and bring it to a vote and twist arms the way he has with other legislation that he and the Dem's deemed important or will he just keep taking NRA money and let it die a slow death? We will hopefully find out who actually believes in the Constitution and who believes in politics over everything else....
My guess is that, given how important this particular piece of legislation is to the NRA, if Reid shoots it down, they'll change his NRA rating and withhold their endorsement the next time he runs.

Re: National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:30 pm
by cbunt1
:iagree:

In fact, that's the response I will EXPECT from my NRA.

Re: National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:43 pm
by chasfm11
I don't expect the Senate to take up the measure, let alone pass it. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.

We'll just have to see what happens through inaction or rejection.

Re: National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:47 pm
by RoyGBiv
I'll bet it never sees a vote in the Senate. Not during this Congress, anyways.

Re: National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:53 pm
by The Annoyed Man
chasfm11 wrote:I don't expect the Senate to take up the measure, let alone pass it. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.

We'll just have to see what happens through inaction or rejection.
Even that has value because it gives ammunition to those who argue—truthfully—that the Senate has gotten too comfortable with its power. It also gives conservatives one more thing to hang around the necks of liberals—and there is no doubt that Reid is a liberal—as "do nothing" hacks. If enough people are PO'd at a lack of action on the part of Reid's leadership, he'll go down to defeat. Despite his having been a friend to the NRA, Reid has done more damage to the country than good over the twenty five years he has been a Senator. How long has it been since he's had an honest job? He's as big an example in favor of passing term limits as there is.

I find it remarkable that Congress saw fit to pass the 22nd Amendment limiting presidents to two terms, but they don't think the same standard ought to be applied to themselves.....the damn hypocrites. But then, they are congressmen, so I repeat myself.

Re: National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:41 pm
by n5wd
The Annoyed Man wrote:...I find it remarkable that Congress saw fit to pass the 22nd Amendment limiting presidents to two terms, but they don't think the same standard ought to be applied to themselves.....the darn hypocrites. But then, they are congressmen, so I repeat myself.
If you look closely, MOST of the laws they pass that make someone else do something don't apply to Congresscritters - they always seem to write in an exemption for themselves.

My guess is that they might bring up the bill before this session ends... they might think that's the best chance they'll have in a few years to defeat the bill (those that are of that ilk).

Re: National Right To Carry Reciprocity And The Senate

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:26 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Salty1 wrote:I am wondering if the Senate will even take this Bill up for a vote.
Passing the House means the bill can be passed in the senate next year without having to start over. It's obviously not coming up this year.
Salty1 wrote:( Not very long ago the NRA was backing Harry Reid and after the uproar from members they dropped their public support for him.
Although the NRA had previously endorsed Harry Reid because of his strong support of the Second Amendment, the NRA was never "backing" him in 2010. Many people, especially perennial NRA-bashers like GOA and NGRA, falsely claimed NRA had endorsed Rein, while others said the NRA was going to endorse him. (Those letters and emails also solicited donations to those organizations.) Reid's confirmation vote on Kagan cost him the endorsement, not complaints from people who were duped by the lies of NRA-bashers.

Chas.